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[–] [email protected] 130 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile, they have an orange beanbag presidential hopeful spilling the beans to the whoever around the world and he gets millions of dollars of support, literal legal immunity from anything and 1/3 of the country want him to become their Cheeto leader in Mountain Dew.

[–] disguy_ovahea 47 points 3 months ago (2 children)

That’s because that orange beanbag seated three associate justices of the Supreme Court, 54 judges for the courts of appeals, 174 district court judges, and three judges for the United States Court of International Trade.

Even worse, citizens want to let him do it again.

[–] errer 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, Biden has seated almost as many judges in his term, so that has balanced out at the lower levels. With the very important exception of the Supreme Court.

[–] disguy_ovahea 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

There’s also the important point of Biden not committing crimes, like those that the commenter mentioned, and having those charges heard by one of his own appointed judges. Appeals from Trump’s other cases can potentially end up with one of his appointed appeals court judges, or ultimately be heard by the newly conservative Supreme Court, as you pointed out.

I mentioned it because that’s the notable difference between Assange’s and Trump’s ability to live above the law.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Please step into my secure toilet to see the nation's secrets.

I still can't believe that fucking happened and people just go on ignoring it

[–] LesserAbe 7 points 3 months ago

Hey I like mountain dew

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Hey, to the positive, less than 1/3 of the country. First, if you look at vote numbers versus total population in previous elections, as well factoring in as the total population including those that can't vote for various reasons. Then, factor in that the party of shit nazis is disenfranchising remaining R voters at lightning speed, the party is massively in debt in some states and basically ceasing to exist, more of the insurrectionists continue to go to prison, the rest of the crazies end up doing something stupid and get arrested...

Things are looking up as that fraction heads towards 1/4 and hopefully they'll go back into their stinky rotting little hole where they belong. Their Russian troll daddies just make the presence look larger and more present than they really are.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Good for him - he's less innocent than folks like Chelsea Manning or Edward Snowden but a heavy prosecution of him would definitely have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers. Did he release things at politically convenient times? Yes. Should that be illegal? Fuck no.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

2016 Assange was a very different person than who he was in 2009. The espionage charges relating to the Chelsea Manning leaks were always bogus, but his involvement with the Trump campaign solidified him as a huge asshole in my mind.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/14/563996442/donald-trump-jr-had-direct-contact-with-wikileaks-during-campaign

Even back then, WikiLeaks was telling trump to claim the election was rigged and stolen. These are not the actions of a whistleblower, and it's clear he was not a whistleblower (or working with whistleblowers) during this period and likely a mouthpiece for Russia to sow division in the US.

[–] Cosmonauticus 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Agreed. Assange is not the good guy in this. No one is in this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

but a heavy prosecution of him would definitely have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers

As if the last decade plus of his life were not enough for that. Better than a life sentence, yeah.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Legendary. That's him cleared in Sweden, UK, and the US. Apparently they're considering letting him return to Australia (his home country) as well. Godspeed, Assange!

[–] [email protected] 111 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Thats the catch, he has to fly home in a Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A whole new meaning to defenestration.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Im just imagining him being sucked out a window like a scene from Final Destination or something.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Cleared" is an interesting way to describe "pleaded guilty and sentenced to 62 months in prison." Dude just already served 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

Yes, that's what I said

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago

Now the right will hate Assange lol

[–] FlyingSquid 31 points 3 months ago (5 children)

This is a real win for Biden. Despite all of Trump's praise for Wikileaks, he did nothing about Assange.

Of course, this wouldn't have happened if it wasn't an election year, but it's still a win.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In my opinion, absolutely. His legal exile lasted far too long... I think most people won't even know this happened unless the late night shows pick it up.

[–] FlyingSquid 17 points 3 months ago

I wonder how many people even remember who he is without a refresher at this point. The general public's memory is short.

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[–] Suavevillain 25 points 3 months ago

I'm glad he is finally free and I'm always thankful to anyone who exposes war crimes and whistleblowers.

[–] someguy3 11 points 3 months ago

This seems like a big deal.

[–] TheBigBrother 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

If Assange wasn't in US territory when revealed classified information, why is he being judged by the US?

Was not the US should be judging the one/s who filtered the information and not who publish it?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

u/@[email protected] explained how

the reason is that the US can exercise such authority in practice with any consequences.

a bigger concern here is his native government's limp dick response tbh

aint he from AU?

[–] FlowVoid 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

the US can exercise such authority

Many countries have the authority to prosecute crimes that occur on their soil even if the perpetrator is outside the country. Including Assange's native country.

The foreign interference crimes apply to conduct that occurs in Australia. So, if the perpetrator was in Australia at the time they engaged in interference, then prosecuting them would be relatively straightforward, provided there was sufficient evidence. If an offender is outside Australia at the time of the interference, they could still be charged with a crime.

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[–] FlowVoid 12 points 3 months ago (10 children)

Anyone involved in a crime committed on US soil can be charged with the crime.

Do you suppose hacking your computer should be legal provided the hacker is in Russia?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If it's legal in Russia, they should not extradite.

If I post this picture to VK from my home in the US, should I be extradited to Russia for it?

[–] FlowVoid 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can certainly be charged in Russia.

Extradition is another matter.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

US courts can still try him in absentia, i.e. if he's not present in the courtroom.

If he's in a country with an extradition treaty with the US, e.g. the UK, he can be extradited to the US for the trial or with a conviction.

[–] FlowVoid 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

No, the SCOTUS has made clear that you cannot be tried in abstentia.

This case requires us to decide whether Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 43 permits the trial in absentia of a defendant who absconds prior to trial and is absent at its beginning. We hold that it does not.

[–] autonomoususer 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Great seeing far more sensible comments here compared with c/technology

Always suprising to see more on a whistle blower than the guys that actually did the war crime.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Watch them arrest him the second he lands.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

If I were him I'd never set foot in the US again.

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