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Europeans view immigration with increasing suspicion. Seven out of 10 Europeans believe that their country takes in too many migrants, according to a survey carried out by BVA Xsight for ARTE Europe Weekly, a project led by the French-German TV channel ARTE GEIE and which EL PAÍS has participated in, as part of the countdown to the European elections in June.

The survey shows that 85% of respondents feel the European Union needs to take more action to combat irregular migration. And only 39% believe that Europe needs immigration today.

The countries where most people consider immigration a problem are Bulgaria (74% of respondents), the Czech Republic (73%), Hungary and Cyprus (68% in both cases). Paradoxically, in Italy, the European country where the largest number of immigrants entered irregularly last year (157,652), only 44% of respondents viewed it as a problem and only 14% saw it as the main problem. In Greece and Spain, the second and third countries with the most irregular arrivals in 2023, respectively, only 11% of respondents considered it the issue of most concern to them, below the European average of 17%. However, Greece is the country where the most people (90%) believe their country takes in too many migrants.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Seven out of 10

Why? Why mix words and digits in that way. That's not acceptable.

[–] BassTurd 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That's how I was taught to write it. One through nine get written out and anything 10 or higher is numeric.

[–] Zehzin 13 points 6 months ago

I'm pretty sure that's in the style guide of a lot of publications

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

One to twelve where I'm from, 13 and above as numbers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I'm very sorry.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Generally, numbers are not used to start a sentence.

[–] Stegget 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

yeah, it's AP style guidelines.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I was taught that the default is to write out numbers, but if you're comparing multiple numbers, they're normally supposed to be written in numeric form. I feel like they should have either started with a number or restructured the sentence.

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Apparently AP style guidelines say that for ten and above, you should use numeric form. Below that, write it out. That may be the driving factor here.

https://writingexplained.org/ap-style/ap-style-numbers

In general you should spell out numbers one through nine in AP Style. Consider the following examples of AP Style numbers,

  • The Chicago White Sox finished second.

  • She had six months left of her pregnancy.

You should use figures for 10 or above and whenever preceding a unit of measure or referring to ages of people, animals, events or things. Also use figures in all tabular matter, and in statistical and sequential forms.

I generally agree with most press conventions, and I'd buy into some of that, but I don't think I really like the "ten cutoff" convention.

[–] Stegget 3 points 6 months ago

As a former ink stained wretch, I can confirm that is the reason.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

From the AP Stylebook:

Spell out all numerals that begin a sentence, except a calendar year. Unless another specific rule applies, spell out whole numbers below 10 and use figures for 10 and above.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Probably because of those immigrants too. They ruined our grammar!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely, with their arabic numerals and all! It should read "Seven out of X"!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

"Seven out of X"!

It's ok, just call it Twitter

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (13 children)

Immigration is a good thing.

On average, the more people contributing to an economy bolsters it.

[–] Vipsu 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

There are more things to a stable and sustainable society than economy.

With many European countries doing budget cuts to education, social security, healthcare etc many people are dissatisfied with their goverments. This can make it very hard to justify spending said budget on migrants or programs with aim to integrating migrants to the society.

[–] P1nkman 9 points 6 months ago

But the budget cuts is so that they can reduce the taxes for the richest, which will trickle down and boost the economy even more! Let's goooooo....

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

All those countries also suffer from a huge demographic catastrophe coming in. Unless they get a massive amount of young immigrant workers to stabilise the social systems, those systems will collapse alltogether.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It's just that the austerity cuts on basic living necessities create more instability, for native-born and new members of a society. But that's probably the purpose, masses are easier to control when they struggle and are helpless

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Who are you writing this for? Pretty obviously Lemmy agrees with this

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[–] 3volver 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Immigration is all about cheap labor. In the US there's a reason why so many seasonal workers come in illegally. It's because it's cheaper for the agricultural overlords and they make greater profits needing to pay undocumented workers less. Remember the money, it's always about the money.

https://www.newsweek.com/nearly-half-us-farmworkers-undocumented-ending-illegal-immigration-could-devastate-economy-1585202

The corporations want us to be xenophobic, they want us to hate "illegal aliens" for "stealing our jobs" because it allows them to continue to profit at record levels.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

How does convincing people to be against cheap labor help companies that want cheap labor? That's like oil companies funding anti-oil campaigns

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They want society to oppose immigration and work visas so that these people will have to work as illegals, for lower pay and worse working conditions.

Despite all the right wing wall talk, the wealthy actually benefit from a somewhat porous border for this reason.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is a needlessly complex plan. So how exactly do "they" manage to move money from their tiny companies to Fox News?

Why can't it just be racism btw?

[–] 3volver 2 points 6 months ago (5 children)

It is fueled by racism, that's what I wrote in my original comment, the agricultural overlords want us to be xenophobic. The wealthy don't want us to recognize the benefits of making temporary work visas easier to obtain because it would cost them more money.

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[–] TokenBoomer 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Man, they’re really not gonna like the coming climate migration.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Italian here. It seems a very low percentage considering how big the immigration issue is perceveid on the media and in the political talks. It was also a big part of the campaign the led the right/center right to win the past elections.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Well, they better get ready for more as increasing numbers of people become climate refugees from the Middle East and global south.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It's a really different situation from America, where xenophobic stuff is concentrated in a very angry, specific slice of the population. It makes me wonder if the EU far-right is less emerging fascism, and more a return to East Asian-style policies, which might have been more natural all along in ancient (former and current) kingdoms.

Just a thought. I'm not even sure I believe it, let alone can prove it, so I guess as they say in Musk-land, "don't at me".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Scapegoats for decades of failed neoliberal capitalism that's led to massive inequality. Massive wealth accumulated by slivers of the populations.

[–] Noite_Etion 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

7 out of 10 Britons believe their country takes in too many Saxons!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

It all went downhill when they started letting the Angles in.

[–] assassin_aragorn 1 points 6 months ago

"DeMoCraTs wOuLd Be FaR RIghT iN EUroPe"

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