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People who eat meat are paying others to torture animals.

Well, you don't. But a good first step is scaling wayyy down. Factory farming is a response to public demand for meat.

In torture, the goal is typically something other than the pain in itself.

Everyone agrees? Really? So is humanity just collectively ignoring the alternatives? How is it possible that "everyone agrees" that you prefer no torture and pain, but the vast majority of people chose to engage in that practice? How can you live like that?

Unnatural doesn't mean supernatural. Words have meanings. Do you also go around saying synthetic materials are aktshually natural?

I was thinking the same. They were agressively advertising on YouTube since last year until at least earlier this year. That bill alone would surely be a million or two.

We're not talking about war, that's a whole other topic. Ants don't have war for pleasure. They have war to protect or expand their territory. We torture animals for pleasure. I know trying to call me ignorant makes you feel a little better but it doesn't make you correct.

I disagree. I welcome OC content like this.

My point is that at the scale we're doing it, this is not a waste product. It's just a product like the oil is a product. We like calling things a waste product to make us feel better about our exploitative behaviours. Like how we call leather a waste product of the dairy industry. It's not waste, it's just another product.

Meat is subsidised twice because the animal feed is also subsidised.

I almost got it, but went for the safer route. Sometimes you need to take chances :P

I think this is the behaviour most people expect. Coming back hours later and finding your old private tabs still in the browser seems to defeat the purpose of using private tabs.