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I know its easier than ever to dunk on how terrible reddit has gotten, but honestly? What is this? How is is safer to deliver this content to kids viewing reddit on a tablet or PC or in the app? Why even create the bs excuse?

They could just have easily told the truth an displayed a message like "Content is limited. Open in the app to view." It's still a jerk move, but at a minimum its honest.

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[–] pivot_root 181 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

You think that's bad? They have four of these "promo" dialogs to push users to the Reddit ~~spyware~~ app.

  1. Unreviewed community (the one you're seeing).
  2. NSFW content.
  3. Trending content (yes, you read that right).
  4. Special events (like r/place).

Fuck Spez.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also just getting a bottom banner asking if you want to use the app. I only ever get there from searches so, no I don't want the app. One of the only websites deliberately making their mobile site unusable to push an app.

[–] Breadhax0r 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ublock gets rid of the banner asking you to switch....it doesn't fix all the other bullshit though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Weird. I have unlock origin on Firefox Android and I will get the pop-up for See this post in...

[–] Breadhax0r 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I recall, I had to go into uBlocks settings and enable Easylist- annoyances > chat widgets an Adguard -annoyances >mobile app banners, widgets

I haven't had any issues myself, but I've seen some stuff online saying reddit has been rather aggressive with trying to fight blockers

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm trans and have surgery coming up so I'm often trying to research a lot of stuff related to that. Seems half the useful info out there is on Reddit and I have to get around the fucking NSFW wall all the time. I'm so frustrated that so much of that information got tied up there and in discord channels

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While it still works, you can use old.reddit.com to get around those walls.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

You forgot one: "Can we see some ID?"

[–] [email protected] 69 points 2 months ago

It's not reviewed and may have harmful content, so please read the harmful content on an app instead?

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Does old.reddit.com still work to get around it?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Old reddit has started to prevent people from accessing the site without being logged in if you use a VPN. Reddit is officially dead for me since last month.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Big yike 😬 Anyone find a decent way around THAT yet? How do they even know that you're on a VPN? Is it like... they maintain a list of known VPN exit node IPs?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess the IPs of most VPNs are known to everyone. I thought killing Old Reddit would be the end for me, but it came sooner. Thanks Spez I guess.

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[–] Squizzy 4 points 2 months ago

I use a scraper called geddit, think it was on fdroid.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago
[–] TheMinions 9 points 2 months ago

I have been using old.reddit to get around these since the API stuff started

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The best tablet for a kid is no tablet. Screen time is a serious issue, dont mess with your kid's brain.

[–] AstridWipenaugh 45 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Do you also support "just say no to drugs" and abstinence only sex ed? Screens, as a concept, are not literally the devil. It's unmonitored and unlimited screen time that's the issue.

E: Damn y'all are dense. "Just say no" was a failed messaging campaign from the war on drugs. The alternative isn't "say yes to drugs"; it's actual education about drugs so you know what they are and the actual dangers they can pose. The "just say no" campaign taught that weed was a "gateway drug" and that everyone that tries the devil's lettuce will start using cocaine, amphetamines, and there's a 100% chance you'll become a homeless junkie and die of an overdose. It was about as ignorant as you can get.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No need to be an asshole and no need to presume I'm stupid. My kids dont have any tablet, we monitor screen/tv time and they play with my phone from time to time. That's enough for at least until they're 12. Every recent study shows that kids spend way too much time staring at screen.. It should be less then one hour a day, we keep it under two. I teach to young adult and this generation is litteraly addicted to their phone. Most have a 6 minutes attention spam and get anxious if they can't look at their phone for more then 10 minutes. Lot's of my friends kids have their own device and the parents keeps fighting with them over screen time. You do what you want, I'll keep my way.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think kids should not be doing drugs, period

[–] mynameisigglepiggle 5 points 2 months ago

I draw the line at needle drugs for kids

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[–] themeatbridge 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's exactly why you look for a tablets specifically for kids. The features you want are parental control, time locking, and app screening.

The entire future of learning is built around screens. Kids take standardized tests on touchscreens. They will do their taxes in an app, research topics with the internet, communicate with their peers in messaging apps, apply for jobs in apps, and build new tools through programming.

They must learn to use screens effectively without getting addicted to them.

Kids who learn those skills early, who practice using a tablet and then putting it down, those kids will be better equipped to go put into the world.

I agree with you that too many parents use screens as babysitters. And while tablets are more addictive and predatory, that's been a problem since screens existed. There's a cool documentary on it calles The Cable Guy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Careful as many child protection apps tend to owned and run by data brokers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Can't believe this is controversial, it should be public knowledge that most children's items with wifi capability are a privacy nightmare. Nobody should be downvoting what you just said.

[–] Malfeasant 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That's how you get your kids to spend all their time at their friends' houses...

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[–] herrvogel 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yes that's why kids' tablets exist. They're less powerful devices loaded with a special version of android that's been MDM'd up the ass to give parents strict control over how their children use the thing. It helps you regulate screen time to a safe level instead of depriving your child of it entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

The best tablet for kids is one with no fucking speakers.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] andros_rex 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For as long as it lasts. It’s clear they’re neglecting it - features like chat don’t work well. Not that the app isn’t a broken glitchy mess either.

[–] YoorWeb 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago

Right? I see it as a bonus that chat doesn’t work.

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[–] not_that_guy05 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago

~~Desktop mode and~~ move on.

[–] Shady_Shiroe 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Idk about other browsers but firefox has an option to load in desktop view, that is what I do to bypass that when I need an answer to something quick and every other source sucks

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Can you set that on a per site basis?

[–] Lemminary 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There's probably an extension for that.

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[–] indeededa 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's why i don't use reddit anymore

[–] NoFun4You 7 points 2 months ago

Such a sad state of affairs over there.

[–] LEDZeppelin 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Get desktop site on your phone. Problem solved

[–] Breadhax0r 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know about that, even when I'm in desktop mode the site is Nigh unusable. It'll refresh the page when I use the back button after viewing a thread and after a short while the whole page will freeze and become unresponsive. Reddit has purposefully made the site as frustrating as possible to use to the point where I don't even use it to browse my niche subreddits anymore.

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[–] EnderMB 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Has anyone tried to scrape Reddit, so that the valuable content from some subs isn't lost for good?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I suppose we could just ask whatever AI it is that they're selling the data to.

[–] tyrant 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The mildly infuriating thing is we still go there on occasion

[–] cosmicrookie 10 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Only because its like the top 8 google results for mostly everything i search!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

And it seems like because of the content deal they got https://www.businessinsider.com/why-reddit-is-taking-over-google-right-now-2024-4

I was preferring the scenario where reddit wanted to block Google because "they don't need the visits" https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/20/23925504/reddit-deny-force-log-in-see-posts-ai-companies-deals

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[–] Lemminary 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or get links by that one stubborn friend who refuses to leave and thinks creating an account on Lemmy is too much hassle despite having one for every popular site to ever exist.

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