Should we lock & tag out the circuit?
Nah, this shitty sign should keep us safe.
this post was submitted on 07 Apr 2024
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Y'all got any of them lockout/tagouts?
Lockouts SMH. Back in my day, we just died. And we were happy to work on energized systems for a bee (which was the style at the time).
You got paid? We used to have to pay for the privilege of being crushed to death at work.
We have lockout/tagout at home
Lockout/tagout at home
Is there a charge for "attempted negligent homicide" or something? You did something so catastrophically stupid that was all but guaranteed to kill someone except you got lucky, but you still should end up getting censured so you don't roll the dice on someone's life again
Reminds me of an story I heard once. Guy working on a job locks and tags out a circuit so he can work on it. Guy goes up on a ladder to do the work.
Coworker comes along and sees circuit left locked; he decides he needs to activate the circuit. Coworker uses bolt cutters to remove the lock and flips on the circuit.
Guy on ladder gets literally knocked off the ladder, falls 10-20 feet onto grass. Guy is rushed to the ER.
Boss investigates, gives coworker two options: either he can quit immediately, or he can keep working and personally explain himself to guy in a month when he gets out of the hospital.
Where I live, for that kind of incident the employer would be obligated (as in, $50k worth of fines and likely criminal charges if you don't) to report it to an independent investigator to determine who was at fault; the person cut the lock would be liable for a fine, and the employer would have to prove that they adequately trained the employee before allowing them to work in a high risk area, or the health and safety officer and company directors could be found criminally liable
In my area, there's a decent chance the guy with the bolt cutters could be criminally liable, if he was adequately trained. That could easily be negligent homicide.
You do not cut locks. If your boss asks you to cut a lock, report them so they get immediately fired. We don't fuck around with LOTO.
Now I understand why you need 20+ supervision and management staff for 2 ppl doing actual work.
I worked briefly at a store where the Store Director was clearly still traumatized about an employee death years prior. Didn't press for details, but it was preventable and they were hyper-vigilant about safety precautions.
The world would be better without Captain Bolt Cutter and their kind spreading misery with their weaponized stupidity.
I remember reading something similar, with someone responding that they were always two people for these tasks. One doing the job and one guarding the circuit, making sure this does not happen.
This is why you need 2 people to reactivate the circuit, one with the boltcutters, the other to fight the guard.
Option three - lock tag and then send coworker up, leaving original guy behind at the circuit with the bolt cutters to do as he sees fit.
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When preparing/working on a machine, TURN IT OFF. IT IS LITERALLY THE FIRST STEP WHEN REPAIR ANY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
Sometimes this isn't possible if the machine needs to stay up to temp, like with plastic injection molders. In those cases, the operation can usually be stopped by a padlock placed somewhere on the controls. There's usually training about it for everyone involved to make sure they know what's up.
And if there're multiple people involved each one should have their own pad lock placed on the controls.
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this is NOT tag out lock out approved holy fuck
Yeah I came here to say that this is a fucking terrifying "LOTO" (and I'm using the term very loosely here) procedure that most likely will eventually kill someone
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This isn't proper lock out, tag out procedure. They forgot the lock part and only have a tag.
why aren't they doing lockout tagout?
Because they're doing note out hope out. Obviously.
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They’re putting a lot of faith in that tape.
I actually knew a guy who died this way at a Caterpillar factory near Peoria, IL. Machine wasn't properly tagged out/locked out.
RIP Troy Bryner
Update:
Per OSHA Report:
Investigation Nr: 200272276 Event: 04/17/2011 Employee Is Killed When Struck By Closing Lid At approximately 11:00 a.m. on April 17, 2011, Employee #1 performing maintenance on a Dunker quench hardening machine that included the repair of a hydraulic leak. He was working in an area that measured approximately 2 feet wide by 3 foot long by 4 feet deep. Employee #1 locked out the machine's control panel and made the necessary repairs. After completing the repair work, Employee #1 instructed a coworker to remove the locks in order to verify that there were no leaks. While in the machine, Employee #1 attempted to lower the machines hydraulic cylinder by depressing the "lower press elevator" button. Instead, he depressed the "lower press lid" button. This caused the machines lid to close on Employee #1's head, killing him. The accident investigation reported that the coworker was working to secure the "lower press lid" cover by chaining it open; however, was not able to secure it in time due to the untimely depression of its activation button.
So, not exactly a failure to lock/out, but certainly an example of how important it is to take those types of procedures seriously. Always, good to know what actually happened.
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4th February that's an old note, better remove it and press.
Had the same thought. The American date format must be the least intuitive, but as a nerd that likes to order files and folders YYYY/MM/DD is just a win.
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When your life is protected by, and depends on a little scribbled piece of paper...
Today on hoodroolic press channel, ve haff an intern, a new intern who's cleaning the press, and he looks prooty dangerous, so ve must deel vif it.
I see they’re following their note-out, scribble-out procedures
The real question is whether this was put up on April 2 or is a really old sign from Feb 4. ISO 8601 saves lives people, but probably not as many as proper lock out/tag out procedures.
As long as that sign is there, don't fucking touch it. Go figure out who put it there and ream there ass for writing it instead of locking out the machine.
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Well, the button says “pull to start” and the sign says “do not push” so we’re good to start it, right?
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LOTO? Never heard of her.
Lock Out/ Tag Out what? Just post a handmade sign, dude
Maybe just a little push
You could press it but don't
Was hat die Reinigungskraft im Kraftwerk gesagt?
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