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"Death penalties should be public, should be quick, it should be televised. I think at a certain age, its an initiation...What age should you start to see public executions?" Kirk asked.

Kirk, along with his co-hosts Jack Posobiec, Tyler Bowyer and Blake Neff, continued to discuss at what age should children watch the public executions, with one co-host pointing out as young as 12 years old.

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[–] ServeTheBeam 173 points 9 months ago (2 children)

We can’t let kids see gay things! But watching someone get murdered is totally cool.

[–] billiam0202 114 points 9 months ago (8 children)

America is a country of violent prudes. There's a reason we rate violent movies lower than movies with "sexual content".

[–] Treczoks 70 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Yep. Beheading where the head flies all over the place? No problem, 12+.

Hint of a single tit? Freakout, 18+!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Pg13 has gone off the rails since I was a kid. Like on-camera gun suicides with chunks, among other things. Meanwhile half the R films I watch don't even have blood anymore blood. Basically pg13 means high violence and R means the tiniest hint that something sexual could maybe happen off screen. I don't get it at all

[–] halcyoncmdr 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

You're forgetting language. Cursing is treated nearly the same as sexual content. Throw a couple fucks in and the movie is rated R even without violence or sexual content.

[–] RagingSnarkasm 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I don’t have any fucks left to throw.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Well, they need to be shown the consequences of what happens if you do gay things, of course.

If Trump gets back in and they implement that “Project 2025” where they plan to fire 50k government workers and replace them with far right wingnuts, I can envision such a future.

Alito just signaled that they’re not satisfied with just overturning Roe, he’s gunning to overturn Obergefel. I wonder which states it’ll be unsafe to travel through for fear of not being able to see my SO if they get hurt and have to go to the hospital. I wonder if any states will try to ban people with gay marriages from entering.

[–] brlemworld 78 points 9 months ago

They already do. It's called school shootings. They have drills and everything. It's quite fucked up.

[–] vegeta 44 points 9 months ago

let's desensitize them to violence as early as possible, WCGW.

/s

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I would MUCH rather my Children watch a Public Execution then watch two MEN hold HANDS!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago

Why does the order of events matter so much to you?

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

More ideas from the Taliban playbook.

Remember kids, a boy is a boy and a girl is a girl, and three witnesses saw Katie get raped so we're going to stone her to death!

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[–] Badeendje 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

George Carlin called it. Maybe they need to put it on cable TV.. the violence network.. you know to balance the budget.

https://youtu.be/5H-NctipBvg?si=hsl0FLV0BuI_g4MW

[–] TIMMAY 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The conservatives want to constantly ramp up the fear factor to keep people in line and this idea of public executions as a spectacle is perfectly in line with their ethos. They are already starting to experiment with new execution methods at the expense of human lives. It is literally the nazi regime again, no hyperbole.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

The "protect the children" group, pro doing nothing to stop school shootings, wants kids to watch people be murdered by the state, doesn't want to let schools feed kids or uplift impoverished families, leading to starving/malnourished children...

But God forbid someone who "looks funny" (to them) wants to read them a kids book.

[–] Snapz 32 points 9 months ago

They know they have to normalize public execution before they can openly hang the disobedient handmaids on the wall.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yes, Christianity is an apocalyptic death cult.

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[–] SuckMyWang 7 points 9 months ago

Bunch of psychopaths

[–] AdrianTheFrog 26 points 9 months ago (2 children)

If your goal is to make everyone traumatized and live in fear of the government from a young age, then sure

[–] captainlezbian 7 points 9 months ago

That’s exactly the goal

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago

It's how he was raised, and he turned out fine!

[–] nutsack 24 points 9 months ago

man i hate this guy a lot

[–] andrewth09 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

"Today's execution broadcast is sponsored by Dunkin Donuts. America runs on Dunkin"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago

But not sex ed - makes perfect sense.

[–] Drivebyhaiku 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I have been privy to people's reactions to watching videos, even grainy distorted ones of executions or accidental death. While adults are generally fairly innocculated against depictions of death that are known to be fictional the same is not true of the real thing. There is good reason why even barely legible death caught on film is aired on news broadcasts with warnings and particularly graphic ones are not broadcast at all. While I think I sit somewhere on the less effected side (effected but very good at compartmentalization) a lot of the people I have personally witnessed veiw footage have been generally very perturbed to the point where the mental disquiet lingers for days after the fact.

Young children are generally perturbed by depictions of theatrical or even loosely conceptualized death in print. While some might seem brave in the face of fictional gore it's basically just playing brave and flouting their idea of being tough when what they are being tough against is a safe little fiction. People who like slasher movies aren't immune to being traumatically impacted when exposed to real death on film.

I find it very telling that there is this mental disconnect that children being "exposed" to the depictions of same sex relationships which are often depicted in the same chaste presentation heterosexual relationships are for age appropriate audiences is somehow "disturbing" while something legitimately traumatizing to the average adult is somehow something kids should be exposed to in the most graphic way possible.

I don't think this man should be permitted to be around children much less advocate for what constitutes an initiation into adulthood.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Stumbled across an execution on 4chan once in my early twenties. The moment I realized what was up I closed the browser and never returned to 4chan. It still pops up in my head every now and then as an intrusive thought.

If anyone ever tried to force one of my kids to watch an execution I'd lose my damn mind, regardless of their age.

[–] ripcord 10 points 9 months ago

In a way I'm glad to hear it affected you so much. I think that's generally healthy.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Simple - they want children to think two boys kissing is scary and taboo, but want children to think hanging a boy in the public square for kissing a boy is super cool and normal.

[–] Drivebyhaiku 10 points 9 months ago

Yeah, the unvarnished answer is usually about that ugly isn't it?

[–] Daft_ish 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Guy at work touted this out. Before I could even say it he was like, "well not small children." Guys, let's be real here, these idiots don't know a God damn thing and are just constantly running their mouths.

[–] winky9827b 12 points 9 months ago

You know who else thinks public executions are a valid means of maintaining power and control over others? Religious extremists...oh wait.

[–] PeckerBrown 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)
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[–] antidote101 18 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I think this is a bad idea because American media tends to make everything absurd. There'd be top ten count downs and behind the scenes specials... They'd probably get a UFC style announcer... Maybe do a cribs show.... How to cook the final meals competition. "So I married a executioner" TV special. Real wives of prisoners and prison officers special.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

Bro that’s what they want. These people are axe murders who want to find a way to do it without being shunned by society.

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[–] Fedizen 13 points 9 months ago

Conservatives straight up stealing notes from ISIS.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They could make it a game show, and call it “The Running Man”.

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[–] die444die 12 points 9 months ago

Ok can we start with his?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Wait,

his wiki says he's against the death penalty?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Kirk

Did he say these things facetiously?

[–] Boddhisatva 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The foot note on that page links to this interview from 2019. The only comment in the interview about the death penalty is. "I don't agree with the president on the death penalty, I don't agree with him on marijuana, I don't agree with him on Saudi Arabia, there are things I don't agree with, but that doesn't mean I should be less enthused about what he's doing to revitalize the country." Trump is, and was at the time, very much pro-death penalty.

However, there is no detail at all or follow up question clarifying this. I can't find any other source suggesting that Kirk used to be anti-death penalty. Either this was a misstatement in this interview or he has completely reversed his position since giving it.

It's not something he is saying facetiously. You can see the clip here.

Edit to add, I did find another source. This tweet from 2017 states, "Death penalty is more expensive than life in prison. Far too often we kill the wrong person. Conservatives should oppose the death penalty." I gather he has since changed his mind.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Who are these primitive nut bags?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

We should start with Charlie Kirk.

[–] TheJims 9 points 9 months ago

They should rename CPAC to DegenCon

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Tonight on the Execution Channel!

How should we execute this homosexual? Vote now. Calls charged at $5 a minute, minimum charge $5.

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[–] yesman 7 points 9 months ago

Being on death row for years is torture, why would we seek to spare the condemned agony only at the last moment? The answer is that we don't. "Painless" or "humane" executions are meant to spare the State and capital punishment supporters of pain, not the condemned.

[–] TheBat 6 points 9 months ago

Charlie Kirk needs a beshaving to make his face the right size.

[–] Arbiter 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

literally starship troopers

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