Imagine your country be so corrupted you don't 'need do safety test for sell it .
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I am at a loss here.
How can the car be sold if it hasn't been tested?
To sell the car, you must meet some minimum safety requirements. Car manufacturers usually demonstrate safety to the government by doing their own internal crash testing. That data is not necessarily publicly released.
The safety ratings you are probably familiar with come from two organisations: The NHTSA and the IIHS perform independent crash testing without support from the manufacturer. Due to budgetary constraints, they don't necessarily test every single model. The cybertruck is quite low volume at the moment and so testing it provides low value to the public. This is not unique to the cybertruck. Other vehicles which are not tested include all Land Rover, Porsche, and Jaguar models.
All I see is a lot of words that say the USA fails in it's duty of care to its citizens
You're fucking right, I honestly thought all cars even in the US couldn't be sold without getting tested by NHTSA (national highway traffic safety administration), only to find that automakers themselves are allowed to test??
So much conflict of interest. I saw my first cybertronic dumpster the other day, it really is that pointy, and I really would not want to interact with it as a pedestrian at any velocity.
This just in: sky is blue and water is wet!
Is their an independent crash test in Germany for Porsche etc? Maybe they will test the Cyber truck.
Considering the Cybertruck probably won't ever be street legal in Europe, I don't think they'll bother.
Yep, no way this monstrosity will ever be allowed on German streets. The TÜV (Technical Inspection Association) is pretty strict in that regard.
You honestly think the EU would allow it if it wasn't?
I am not in the EU but a 5 second search leads to:
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/porsche/cayenne/29116
plus dozens of other links for the other models.
As others have said, the cyberwank fails in so many other areas it won't even get to the crash test stage as its design is so flawed.
They're not really citizens, they're really just consumers.
It may be more accurate to say independently crash tested. Manufacturer ones may not be released to the public nor useful to the public, but a manufacturer would be stupid to not do at least some. They could get some really expensive surprises when actual customers have accidents.
Maybe it's not a car but a truck category?
Are trucks in the US not crash tested?
IRC heavy duty trucks are exempt from many federal safety regulations that apply to cars.
Really?
That is fucking insane.
You have to realize that semi trucks are built different. Think of it closer to a bulldozer than a pickup. It's not designed to crumple into origami to absorb the force of impact. It's a heavy industrial piece of equipment that's designed to haul assloads of product with 3 or 4 assloads of horsepower. It'd be pointless to subject such vehicles to the same or even similar tests.
we are not talking about semis. we are taking about mall crawlers.
You'd still think of verifying energy mitigation/redirection for impact into other vehicles, no?
Like it should be required that there's something to keep a car from going under a trailer's wheels if they merge into the side of a truck. How do you verify that's working properly?
crickets
Awkward glances side to side
Those are excellent questions.
They did put that bar on the back of all trailers after Jayne Mansfield died crashing into a semi at night.
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I didn't realize that NHSF crash tests were even optional for mass produced cars.
It’s mainly to get a nice little graphic to put into your marketing materials. Elon knows that the type of sucker who buys his products doesn’t look past the shiny design.
What's the NHSF? You said it like it's a well known organization or something. lol
That said, did you think there was a minimum safety rating cars had to achieve or something? That would pretty sweet and something we should totally have. I absolutely love safety regulations!
There are lots of safety regulations manufacturers must comply with even if their vehicle is not independently tested.
I think this aligned with the greater frequency of lawsuits in the US. Sometimes it’s more cost effective to enforce regulations by lawsuit than to hire inspections/audits/testing. I’m not agreeing with them at prioritizing, just describing
If it has Tesla's autonomous driving, I guarantee it'll be crash tested sooner or later
Sooner
Later too.
Now with ultra-realistic dummies!
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Dude, people with money are so fucking boring.
Bezos could easily buy 100 of these things (yes I know he can buy an infinite amount) and crash test them himself and put out the stats.
And he'd make money from it as well
Who’s excited to see what a vehicle without crumple zones does to a regular car at 60+ mph? Smart money is on at least one person being split completely in half, but the hail mary returns on “no fatalities” is really tempting.
Look, maybe some by crazy chance, it's super safe for occupants. However, I think the cars it hit will be sheared a good ways through.
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The beta tester will do that and even pay for it.
Why pay a crash test team and fund all of that research when tech bros will test it for you! Good luck everyone else!
So it wont come to EU any time soon.
There's a number if reasons why it won't.
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too heavy. It requires a C1 license, which is basically what you need to drive a full-size truck, which very few people have.
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too pointy. Safety requirements require all protruding parts to have something like a 4mm rounding, but the dumpstertruck simply has bare, unrounded steel plates.
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basically nobody drives a pick up, because they're a stupid way to do anything.
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Europe mandates a CCS2 connector, which isn't even an option on the Tesla truck right now.
And of course, Europe DOES mandate crash testing, which it will never pass. It also requires pedestratian safety, which it will also never pass.
- basically nobody drives a pick up, because they're a stupid way to do anything.
Yes but they are unfortunately becoming more common
- Europe mandates a CCS2 connector, which isn't even an option on the Tesla truck right now.
True, but that's irrelevant since Tesla models have the CCS2 connector. Having to switch the connector is not a problem for them.
Obligatory: Yes the car, Tesla, Elon is bad.
I mean it positively - I see more and more of these American "compensatiors" on roads.
As a cyclist it is worrying and I know few people who use "trucks" for work and noons of them would consider anything bigger than Hylux.
I agree exept for the point that more and more people need these stupid big ass american trucks nowm
Huge W
That gif at the beginning of the article clearly showcases the lack of crumple zones. The impact energy doesn't dissipate and you can see the crash test dummies lurch forward with a good amount of whiplash at 35 mph (56 km/h).
35 mph (21.748 km/h).
You converted in the wrong direction.
1mph = 1.6 km/h
35 mph is 56 km/h
Dang it. Fixed
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I've seen video of the cyber truck being crash tested. What was that about?
An internal, unreported test by Tesla. That strangely cuts out before the impact and has no statistics or discussion about it's crash capabilities.
Ah, ok makes sense. Personally, I think it would look better AFTER a crash test. LOL.
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