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[–] [email protected] 75 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I am at a loss here.

How can the car be sold if it hasn't been tested?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago (2 children)

To sell the car, you must meet some minimum safety requirements. Car manufacturers usually demonstrate safety to the government by doing their own internal crash testing. That data is not necessarily publicly released.

The safety ratings you are probably familiar with come from two organisations: The NHTSA and the IIHS perform independent crash testing without support from the manufacturer. Due to budgetary constraints, they don't necessarily test every single model. The cybertruck is quite low volume at the moment and so testing it provides low value to the public. This is not unique to the cybertruck. Other vehicles which are not tested include all Land Rover, Porsche, and Jaguar models.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 8 months ago (4 children)

All I see is a lot of words that say the USA fails in it's duty of care to its citizens

[–] RubberElectrons 16 points 8 months ago

You're fucking right, I honestly thought all cars even in the US couldn't be sold without getting tested by NHTSA (national highway traffic safety administration), only to find that automakers themselves are allowed to test??

So much conflict of interest. I saw my first cybertronic dumpster the other day, it really is that pointy, and I really would not want to interact with it as a pedestrian at any velocity.

[–] NABDad 7 points 8 months ago

This just in: sky is blue and water is wet!

[–] Blue_Morpho 2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Is their an independent crash test in Germany for Porsche etc? Maybe they will test the Cyber truck.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Considering the Cybertruck probably won't ever be street legal in Europe, I don't think they'll bother.

[–] CitizenKong 2 points 8 months ago

Yep, no way this monstrosity will ever be allowed on German streets. The TÜV (Technical Inspection Association) is pretty strict in that regard.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

You honestly think the EU would allow it if it wasn't?

I am not in the EU but a 5 second search leads to:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/porsche/cayenne/29116

plus dozens of other links for the other models.

As others have said, the cyberwank fails in so many other areas it won't even get to the crash test stage as its design is so flawed.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 1 points 8 months ago

They're not really citizens, they're really just consumers.

[–] AA5B 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It may be more accurate to say independently crash tested. Manufacturer ones may not be released to the public nor useful to the public, but a manufacturer would be stupid to not do at least some. They could get some really expensive surprises when actual customers have accidents.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe it's not a car but a truck category?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Are trucks in the US not crash tested?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

IRC heavy duty trucks are exempt from many federal safety regulations that apply to cars.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Really?

That is fucking insane.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

You have to realize that semi trucks are built different. Think of it closer to a bulldozer than a pickup. It's not designed to crumple into origami to absorb the force of impact. It's a heavy industrial piece of equipment that's designed to haul assloads of product with 3 or 4 assloads of horsepower. It'd be pointless to subject such vehicles to the same or even similar tests.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

we are not talking about semis. we are taking about mall crawlers.

[–] RubberElectrons 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

You'd still think of verifying energy mitigation/redirection for impact into other vehicles, no?

Like it should be required that there's something to keep a car from going under a trailer's wheels if they merge into the side of a truck. How do you verify that's working properly?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

crickets

Awkward glances side to side

Those are excellent questions.

[–] Soggy 2 points 8 months ago

They did put that bar on the back of all trailers after Jayne Mansfield died crashing into a semi at night.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah lmao. Big truck pull hard no stop. As long as it does all those things, fuck everything else

[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

😬 I don't like that line of thinking haha

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just pretend it's mad max and you are fighting for the last drops of guzzoline every time you leave the house, as is right and proper with the Lord.

[–] RubberElectrons 1 points 8 months ago

Do we get free silver spray paint? The answer had better be hell yes.

[–] JamesTBagg 1 points 8 months ago

I don't know if heavy trucks are exempt (which may explain why the DOT regulates drivers and their schedules more strictly) but I do know the Cybertruck is not a heavy truck. It's a light truck which has similar rules to passenger cars.