submitted 4 months ago by MicroWave to c/politics

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday he is sending National and Florida State Guard troops to Texas to help that state put up razor wire fences on the southern border, a move in apparent defiance of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision on the contentious immigration issue.

DeSantis said it would be the “first-ever deployment” for the State Guard, a force he re-established in 2022 after being defunct for 75 years.

But Florida law says the State Guard, which reports directly to the governor, is to be used “exclusively within the state,” and a proposed bill to allow out-of-state deployments has not been passed by the Legislature.

DeSantis spokesman Jeremy Redfern did not respond to a request for comment on the use of the State Guard outside of Florida.

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[-] billiam0202 142 points 4 months ago

Can someone from the White House please point out that if there really is an "invasion" at the southern border, that makes DeSantis and Abbott guilty of aiding America's enemies by putting them on buses and planes and sending them all over the US?

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Since when does human trafficking aid the victims?

[-] billiam0202 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It doesn't, but that's beside the point. The point is, if there really is an "invasion" at the border, what do you call someone who helps those "invaders" get deeper into the country? Why shouldn't the federal government march right in to Tallahassee and Austin and arrest Abbott and DeSantis on charges of treason?

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[-] sailingbythelee 91 points 4 months ago

Biden should call their bluff. Letting Abbott and DeSantis make these little shows of defiance using actual troops and law enforcement personnel only emboldens the right. That has to be a red line.

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[-] [email protected] 86 points 4 months ago

I think that my favorite part of the Bible is where Jesus puts razor wire in the river to keep people from entering his country.

[-] [email protected] 74 points 4 months ago

For fuck's sake, shut this down already. They're going to keep ratcheting until they get a response, and if they go far enough the next step is to actually start fighting. It's not a harmless stunt, this is normalizing the steps toward armed rebellion.

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[-] gibmiser 61 points 4 months ago

For fucks sake, they really want Civil War 2, don't they.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago

What's crazy is, no, they don't want war. They want to get reelected indefinitely for status and profit, and will say anything to get that. The shit they say incites their followers to want war, and that is advantageous for them.

The politicians know their bluffs will be called, but if they keep people mad and scared, they can keep farming donations and votes from rubes. They've done it for decades. This rhetoric gets stale eventually, so they have to keep amplifying the message, to the point they're now posturing for a civil war they know won't ever come.

Meanwhile, their voters are bashing people on the head with hammers or killing family members because they've been told to be scared for decades, and are now being told to fight back.

[-] baronvonj 19 points 4 months ago

The politicians know their bluffs will be called,

They want their bluffs to be called, because then they can squawk ab it it the big bad Deep State oppressing them.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't really know what DeSantis and Trump really want. I know some of these people who follow them though, and yes, they absolutely want civil war. That may not continue if it starts happening and they find out what the reality is like, but right now they want it.

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[-] Eldritch 11 points 4 months ago

We would have to actually end the first civil war before we could technically start a new one. They did have terms of surrender etc signed. But only the leadership surrendered. It's been a cold civil war for at least the last hundred years plus

[-] Wermhatswormhat 8 points 4 months ago

You know, either they really want to start another war, or this is just a damn show for this crazy ass election cycle that’s taking place. Probably both. They want to be able to tell their constituents “we’re doing everything we can to save this country, and we’re telling the Feds to F off while we do it. And their base just eats it up like taco night.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Since it looks like the GOP is going to loose at the next election, a civil war is one of the few options left

[-] [email protected] 61 points 4 months ago

Fat Ron wasting yet more taxpayer money

[-] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago

Just a fascist doing fascist things.

That also makes for more NatGuard troops for Biden to activate if Abbott does truly shit the bed and actually stops or conspires to stop Federal officers from cutting down razor wire.

[-] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

This doesn't sound like National Guard troops. It's referred to specifically as "State Guard" and says it was only reestablished in 2022. I'm pretty sure the Florida National Guard has existed longer than that.

[-] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's both

DeSantis orders Florida National, State Guard members to Texas border

Gov. Ron DeSantis said Thursday he is sending National and Florida State Guard troops to Texas

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

State Guards and National Guards usually train and deploy together for in-state activities. Only the National Guard can be federalized, though.

[-] FuglyDuck 43 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Arrest every officer involved. Including desantis. Charge? Insurrection.

If Florida seceded… we get to call the wall “America’s Cock Ring”. Just saying.

[-] not_that_guy05 14 points 4 months ago

Not like it matters, that cock is gonna shrink smaller and smaller with climate change.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

Exactly what happens when you have a cock ring too tight and don't remove it

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[-] profdc9 41 points 4 months ago

It would seem to me that if a governor could order military actions in another state, that would make this a nation of 50 commander-in-chiefs, not one. I would think that, if not under orders from POTUS, any military actions of the Florida National Guard in another state would be illegal.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

I feel the obvious thing that is happening is they are trying to normalize it in a lead up to civil war. One inch at a time they are consciously walking towards normalizing state on state interference. It's same reason we are seeing texas trying to get medical records from a Seattle hospital. Pushing the boundaries is the MO.

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[-] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

Don't forget that, last year, when actual Nazis were goose stepping outside of Disney, Traitor Ron didn't make any effort whatsoever to stop them.

[-] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

Why would he try to stop his voters?

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago

Sounds like DeSantis is an insurrectionist too.

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[-] just_another_person 31 points 4 months ago

I'm positive he doesn't have the capacity to do this since it pertains to operations outside of state lines, but these assholes really want to run and push the limits to trigger a court case. As I'm seeing this, if the Florida Troops do anything like harm a person, they are fucked.

[-] tills13 23 points 4 months ago

Why is it only a crisis in Texas and not Florida, New Mexico, Arizona, or California?

I get a lot of people are crossing over, fleeing violence and political unrest but it seems like only Texas is posturing and turning it into a political issue.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

Texas has the shitest state government of them. Who also love to grandstand the most

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

That picture of the guy in the middle of the razor wire is fucking harrowing

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

There is nothing legal about this.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit 6 points 4 months ago

Hasn't seemed to be a concern for them yet.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What a sick piece of shit. Ron DeSHithead tries to score political points by putting as much hurt as possible on desperate migrants.

30 years from now, any people reading this post: Ron De Who??? never heard of him.

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[-] betterdeadthanreddit 11 points 4 months ago

The next Red Dawn remake won't have to worry about hasty last-minute edits to make the Chinese invaders into North Koreans. MAGA chucklefucks getting schwacked won't bother the CCP one bit.

[-] ganksy 8 points 4 months ago

Go ahead swing your pee pee around just don't cry when we deduct it from your state subsidies

[-] CharlesDarwin 8 points 4 months ago

I hate this timeline. Fuck all these jerks that keep trying to goad on a civil war.

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