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Proud Boys member gets six years in prison for Capitol riot after insulting judge (www.theguardian.com)

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Marc Bru repeatedly interrupted chief judge before the sentence was handed down, calling him a ‘clown’ and a ‘fraud’

A man who stormed the US Capitol with fellow Proud Boys far-right extremist group members was sentenced on Wednesday to six years in prison after he berated and insulted the judge who punished him.

Marc Bru repeatedly interrupted chief judge James Boasberg before the sentence was handed down, calling him a “clown” and a “fraud” presiding over a “kangaroo court”.

The judge warned Bru that he could be kicked out of the courtroom if he continued to disrupt the proceedings.

“You can give me 100 years and I’d do it all over again,” said Bru, who was handcuffed and shackled.

“That’s the definition of no remorse in my book,” the judge said.

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[–] Zombiepirate 146 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Bru has been representing himself with an attorney on standby. He has spewed anti-government rhetoric that appears to be inspired by the sovereign citizen movement. At the start of the hearing, Bru demanded that the judge and a prosecutor turn over five years of their financial records.

Just to make it perfectly clear that this guy is an imbecile.

[–] newthrowaway20 94 points 9 months ago (4 children)

I mean if the last decade hasn't proven it yet, I just want to reiterate. You don't need to be smart to destroy America.

[–] agent_flounder 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe you need to be dumb and ignorant to destroy America.

[–] newthrowaway20 11 points 9 months ago

It certainly helps..

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

You don't need to be smart to destroy America.

Its a lot easier to break stuff than it is to build it or fix it.

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[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 9 months ago

And yet he still only got six years.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 9 months ago (1 children)

According to another article the guy is 43. Imagine proudly throwing away the majority of your forties for Donald fucking Trump. Like most people when I was young I always thought 40 was ancient but now that I'm approaching it myself I simply can't imagine anything being worth losing these years. My partner and I finally have the stability and the means to do many of the things we've always dreamed of. It would be such a waste.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I suspect he'd didn't have as much to lose by throwing away his 40s as you would. He doesn't sound like the most rational of sorts, so probably didn't have the 'stability and the means" for a good life you mention.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He did have enough free time on his hands to travel from wherever he lives to storm the capitol., so you’re probably onto something there.

[–] deweydecibel 5 points 9 months ago

Well, let's not lay a blanket statement like that down on anybody that makes an effort to join a protest in DC. It is travel, a day's worth of travel for some, or a flight, and you have to book a stay somewhere, pay for parking, food, etc. There are lot of people who will commit to that for a protest for really good causes, and that shouldn't be downplayed.

But then there's assholes like this, who did all of that...for Donald Trump.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (3 children)

He assumed that since Trump gets away with insulting the judge, he could do it, too. This was partially a consequence of treating Trump with kid gloves and tolerating his shenanigans. I hope Trump’s other judges take note, but they probably won’t.

[–] stoly 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Well they REALLY want to make things stick to Trump which means giving absolutely zero possibility of an appeal determining bias from the judge. They want these cases to be run so well and so by the book that there's no chance of him getting off on a technicality.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand that, but they’ve gotta draw the line somewhere. So far, it doesn’t look like they have. All the various judges seem to have done is sternly told him things that are common sense to virtually every other defendant.

[–] stoly 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

He's got like 3 gag orders that have through multiple appeals courts and been affirmed. How many previous presidents were sued criminally and given gag orders? Precisely 1. This is still truly gigantic. It took someone like Trump to come along for the court system to ever even have to test the limits of how you treat former presidents.

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[–] Jimmyeatsausage 6 points 9 months ago

Slapping Trump down in court would feel awesome until whatever decisions the judge makes get overturned on appeal on some technicality. I'm perfectly happy with the current strategy of giving him all the rope he wants. If his supporters want to fuck around and find out how the justice system works for folks in their income bracket...well, I'm sorry but insurrection has consequences and unapologetic insurrection has bigger consequences.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Should have took him up on that 100 years proposal.

[–] EdibleFriend 40 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

But, of course, he's another one who got a slap on the wrist even after flat out going Goofy meme on this shit.

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[–] grue 31 points 9 months ago

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[–] TheJims 47 points 9 months ago (14 children)

One less trump voter

[–] Oderus 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

One less American that can't own a gun

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[–] Grobmobularb 42 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He’s just hoping Drumpf will get elected and pardon them all. He probably would too. If Drumpf gets back into the Oval Office, kiss this country goodbye.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump doesn't care about these useful idiots.

They can't scratch his back, he won't even acknowledge them let alone pardon them.

[–] monkeyslikebananas2 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

True but by pardoning them, the next batch of insurrectionists will be a lot more bolder and violent.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bold of you to assume Trump thinks that far ahead.

[–] machinin 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reckless of you not to.

[–] Olhonestjim 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Trump is a malignant narcissist. Other people barely exist to him, unless they are actively fawning over him at that very moment. The guy is incapable of long term planning.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (8 children)

Yes, but people around him are able to convince him "Hi, Mr President, you know these guys... Yeah, it's in your best interest to pardon them because XYZ..."

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

“You can give me 100 years and I’d do it all over again,” said Bru, who was handcuffed and shackled.

This is why you don't give terrorists a second chance.

[–] Ensign_Crab 36 points 9 months ago (3 children)

And prosecutors were seeking 7 years 3 months.

Are judges ever not lenient in these cases?

[–] themeatbridge 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Judges have been lenient in 82% of the sentencing of these terrorists.

[–] agitatedpotato 8 points 9 months ago

Im sure that won't come back to bite the government in the ass.

[–] stoly 20 points 9 months ago

They save the real big sentences for marijuana and protesting oil pipelines.

[–] Mammal 5 points 9 months ago

These are the types of cases where it pays to be lenient.

Without going deeply into the history & tactics of dealing with insurgencies: If the goal is social stability and reconciliation - it is best to be lenient the first time, but then be absolutely over-the-top brutal the second.

[–] IronpigsWizard 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So, this guys' whole thing is basically, "GRRR, I'M ANGRY. FUCKOFF AND GIVE ME 6 YEARS".

Man, you sure showed that judge and everyone else by being locked up for 6 years now.

[–] lennybird 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

2,190 days where I'll be out in the sunshine, eating delicious food, playing with my kids, and he'll be stuck inside most of the time eating prison food lol.

#freedom

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[–] Gazumi 24 points 9 months ago

No prizes for guessing which gang he'll be joining in prison.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 9 months ago

Is this guy claiming to be a hard core Antifa who was trying to make Trump look bad?

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[–] Red_October 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah he knew he was fucked, he was just trying to make sure he was memorable enough that Dump would be sure to pardon him if he won a second term, which this guy is really really counting on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Hard to tell, if you're dumb enough to talk for Trump's lies about the election, you are also be dumb enough to berate a judge.

Also could be that if you are dumb enough to believe that this will get trumps attention and he won't think solely about himself, you are also dumb enough to berate a judge. So it's kind of a catch 22.

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[–] anarchy79 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Reminds me of State of Georgia vs Fenton Allen, court transcript by Rick and Morty.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bjDkQR57fA

[–] stoly 5 points 9 months ago (3 children)

LOL this is precisely why the Trump judges are not being aggressive. No way this case didn't get tossed or retried on appeal because of the judge's behavior.

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[–] brlemworld 11 points 9 months ago

Sounds like the sentence should be 101 years so they don't do it again.

[–] Carrick1973 5 points 9 months ago

Just wanted to find out what the count of these guys being secret leftist Antifa members is... oh yeah, zero...

Yet Another Imbecile for Trump... I didn't realize just how quickly defunding schools in red states would affect the electorate...

[–] paddirn 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

When keeping it real goes wrong - MAGA edition

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