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“We thank you for the upcoming election, Lord — or caucus, as we call it in Iowa,” said Hundley, speaking from the sanctuary of his evangelical Christian church in his slight Texas drawl as his parishioners bowed their heads.

“It doesn’t matter what our opinion is,” he went on. “It’s really what’s your opinion that matters. But you’ve given us the privilege of being able to exercise a beautiful gift. The gift of vote. We thank you for that.”

While Hundley stops short of suggesting to his parishioners which candidate divine guidance should lead them to support, he is among more than 300 pastors and other faith leaders who’ve been described as supporters by former President Donald Trump’s campaign. It’s a message that some members of Hundley’s First Church of God have taken to heart, saying their faith informs their intention to caucus for Trump.

Ron Betts, a 72-year-old Republican who said he plans to caucus for “Trump all the way,” said he felt the former president “exemplified what Jesus would do.”

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[–] toiletobserver 88 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"Iowa's conservatives pretend their faith says whatever they feel like when voting, and some say it leads them to Cheetos."

[–] Tylerdurdon 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Thou shall licketh the orange from thyne fingers in holy glory, sayeth the Lord.

Ezekiel 29:17

[–] Zombiepirate 77 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Its because they're Christian Nationalists.

They don't think of it as our country, they think of it as their country that was stolen by secularism and "wokeness." Their version of religion means they must rule at the top of the theocratic hierarchy and force the rest of us to live under a system where women are subservient, sexual minorities are persecuted, and the church writes the law.

[–] tacosplease 10 points 10 months ago

And if they successfully turn America into a theocracy then they'll start picking other countries to "liberate" for Jesus.

Not hard to imagine TX sending out "Cruz aides" (say that fast a few times) to spread the love of the Lord. They may need some special ~~inquisitions~~ inquiries to find anyone who undermines their righteous cause.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 10 months ago (3 children)

WWJD?

According to these people He'd lie, cheat, steal and rape his way to power - then He'd con a few people into beating and murdering others while committing insurrection against a democratically-elected gov't.

[–] orclev 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like Supply-side Jesus.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

I guess it makes sense that a religion full of rape and incest would lead them to Trump??

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[–] ZephyrXero 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

As a former Christian, I still can't believe how many of these people never even read that book they're so fond of. Not a god damn clue in their heads if they think Trump is anything "Christ like". He does in many ways resemble an anti-christ though, so I could see the Armageddon accelerationists being supporters for their own twisted reasons

[–] cheese_greater 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Dude, look up Trump + signs of antichrist, its unreal

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. I know that every president has their own laundry list of "OMG signs of the anti-christ"! However, trump is so on point its actually unsettling. Not a whole lot of stretching required for trump to be the legit anti-christ.

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[–] Seleni 49 points 10 months ago

I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires. ― Susan B. Anthony

[–] TK420 47 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Get fucked religious people, I’m sick of your delusional life. Go somewhere else and fuck it all up, you aren’t wanted here.

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[–] White111 39 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What a backwards shithole this place sounds like.

[–] pozbo 11 points 10 months ago

If you want Iowa to look neat and logical you'd have to reverse so much of the place it would have to be called 'Awoi'.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (8 children)

Are American Christians not able to tell the difference between their internal monlogue and divine guidance, or what?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago

It's crazy how God is always telling these people the things that reinforce their biases and never things like "Go help Habitat For Humanity."

[–] DarthBueller 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

There is no difference. They think there’s a difference. Got it backwards.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Finding a definitive answer on whether or not any god exists is way above most of our pay grades.

But even if I were religious, I don't see myself thinking "maybe chili tonight for dinner?" And responding "okay, thanks God".

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[–] FlyingSquid 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ron Betts, a 72-year-old Republican who said he plans to caucus for “Trump all the way,” said he felt the former president “exemplified what Jesus would do.”

And lo, did our Lord grabbeth Mary Magdalene by the pussy...

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[–] LEDZeppelin 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If your religion leads you to trump, you need a new religion or no religion at all

[–] DigitalTraveler42 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

This shit is so aggravating, it's like how tf do you interpret the Bible so badly that you wind up following the guy that checks every box for being the antichrist?

It's the same thing with all my fellow veterans who follow Trump, they all claim he's the best leader, yet I and similarly minded veterans have to wonder wtf leadership classes these idiots got that they would think Trump qualifies for any kind of leadership position, because he absolutely does not.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 10 months ago

I feel like Ron Betts has never actually read any of the Jesus parts of the Bible.

[–] Riccosuave 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

he felt the former president “exemplified what Jesus would do.”

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[–] A_Random_Idiot 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If you think your faith leads you to Trump, then you've betrayed basically every tenant of your faith to get to that conclusion.

but then again, these people never read their bibles, so they have no idea what their faith actually is besides what the hateful, manipulative and money grubbing preachers spout at them to believe.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Ron Betts, a 72-year-old Republican who said he plans to caucus for “Trump all the way,” said he felt the former president “exemplified what Jesus would do.”

Nietzche's The Antichrist apparently didn't go hard enough:

One must not let oneself be misled: they say 'Judge not!' but they send to Hell everything that stands in their way.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What kind of shitty ass god would choose Donald J Trump as their prophet?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

A white supremacist god

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Christ does not lead you to Trump, you lying assholes.. your own ego leads you to him.. your love of yourselves is what leads you around by the nose..

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[–] xenomor 24 points 10 months ago

Honey, it ain’t you faith leading you there. It’s your racism. It always boils down to that one way or another in America.

[–] Snapz 24 points 10 months ago

To "follow their faith" they'd have to know what the hell it was. Hypocrites blow in the wind and would call Jesus a "Sociologist/Marxist libcuck" if they saw him in real life. Fucking evil circus.

[–] theyoyomaster 22 points 10 months ago

Neither Donald Trump nor actual conservative politics have any core foundation in the Christian faith.

[–] badbytes 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think most Christians have lost Christ.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago

What a coincidence! So do brain damage and/or lead poisoning.

[–] AA5B 19 points 10 months ago (2 children)

While it’s cathartic to ridicule fundamentalist Christian’s knowledge of their own faith as the only possible source of such dissonance, I imagine their view of the Great Cheetoh is also very far from reality. It’s not just the Bible they quote as something they don’t know, but the last 8 years of history? Any actual news in that time? Trumps background as a reality show host, but before that decades of questionable real estate fraud?

So how is it possible that they either don’t know or don’t care who Trump has proven himself to be, over and over? How could they have missed so much reality, or willfully ignored the last bright years?

[–] surewhynotlem 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Peer pressure and intentionally not thinking critically. The entire religion self identifies as sheep following a shepherd.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

"I listen to the voice in my head, and it tells me to vote for the one that promises to fulfil my basest desires."

[–] cosmicrookie 15 points 10 months ago

When "take the wheel Jesus" affects a whole country and not just one self

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

If your conscience and your religion lead you to an idiotic, misogynic and xenophobic fraud with obvious delusions, you don't actually have the former and the latter is irrepairably broken.

[–] hdnsmbt 11 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Why are yanks having such a hard time wrapping their heads around the separation of state and church?

[–] ghostdoggtv 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

They're not yanks, they're southern confederates and they understand the concept well enough to engage in covert, coordinated warfare against it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Religion is just a cultural affectation. None of these people actually believe in anything outside themselves.

[–] werefreeatlast 10 points 10 months ago

Plus, Trump is a cherub! Micro penis is a total giveaway. He just needs to drop trousers, get the wings and the bow.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

hateful, racist assholes. the whole lot.

[–] Scotty_Trees 9 points 10 months ago

These people are fucking hopeless. And almost a third of the US voting population is operating on similar logic. We are so fucked.

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