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New York man convicted of murdering woman in car that turned into his driveway
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this post was submitted on 23 Jan 2024
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Good. What kind of a fucking psychopath sees a car of lost young people and decides, instead of offering directions or at worst leaving them the fuck alone, that they deserve assault with a deadly weapon?
Goddamn deranged.
A Trump voter.
Well that's one less that can't vote for him.
Which itself is kinda fucked up but that's a separate issue.
Still don't get how that doesn't fall under taxation without representation
"No taxation without representation" is just a catchy slogan, not a legal principle. It has the same legal standing as "if the glove don't fit you must acquit."
That's a Declaration of Independence item, not US Constitution.
It was in reference to Britain passing the Stamp Act (and other things) charging fees on people living in what is today the United States to prop up the treasury of Britain.
What usually gets left out of the story is that the taxes were imposed in part to pay for the French and Indian War, which the colonists started. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The idea being that, felons are morally reprehensible people, and therefore cannot be trusted to vote in a "civic" manner.
The reality is corporations- and the rich people that control them- are by far the more morally bankrupt group.
not that I agree with that, per se. (though I would say it's true of people like Bill Hwang of Archegos Capital, or Elizebeth Holmes of Theranos... Or the Koch brothers... or Trump. but the average criminal? far from it.)
100%. Disenfranchisement is absolutely encouragement to selectively legislate and enforce. All these rural areas housing federal prisons would positively loose their shit if felons could vote. Because to them that completely defeats the point of the federal prisons.
I’m sure somehow his ballot will be counted.
Trump wasn't going to win New York anyways.
Years of "fear the other, they're coming for you" Fox News.
An old, sweet lady was once talking to my wife about the blackout curtains in our bedroom. She says she bought some like it so "antifa couldn't see inside" her house.
It makes me so angry that Fox News convinced her to be scared of a boogyman.
I've tried saying "don't fall for those conspiracy theories". Don't know if it made him rethink but he sure didn't spout any more.
I thought the end was going to be about how you should replace the blackouts with regular ones (or none at all) because how else would others be able to tell if you behave like a dignified person
Would it make you feel better to know that if it wasn't that it would be something else?
I have been to that general area. No one choosing to live there is sane.
I think we need to be mindful that we can't point at one media organization or "political aisle" for this type of rhetoric. @[email protected] above encapsulates it beautifully.
The fear mongering isn't subject to particular ideologies and anyone is susceptible. These tactics are being used by nearly(edit) everyone in the political realm.
edit: just gotta say I love the downvotes with no replies. There is a middle-ground nuanced objectivity where neither "both parties are the same" or "my political side is holier than thou" apply. Go touch some grass or learn how to have an actual conversation with those you disagree with online.
The disguised "both sides" BS.
From a tankie no less.
? I stated that "both parties are the same" doesn't apply, did I need to do the "bOTh PaRtiEs aRe ThE SaME!" for the emotional to be able to read it right?
Nah.
Someone who has been conditioned by decades of fear propaganda, and taught that his guns are the only thing standing between him and the government/immigrants/criminals/whatever the fear of the day is
Oh it's worse than that, they were already leaving when he came out and shot them.
oh and this bullshit excuse:
The first shot was an accident. Obviously the second shot was to prove to them that the first one was an accident cuz if he were trying to shoot them, then he'd just shoot them. He probably tried shouting those words, but realized they were too far so he just had to show them what a great shot he was when he was trying by actually shooting one of them.
Totally innocent miscommunication.
The only thing about this I can somewhat understand is that it wasnt one car, it was two cars and a motorcycle. I would probably be a bit scared if such a big group of people suddenly show up to my rural house.
But 1. shooting them, and 2. while they were already driving away, is what makes this so deranged.
WTF is going on in your life that cars coming up your driveway would scare you? Really?!
You think that some death squad has your number and they sent the whole gang?
Some areas simply have no-good groups of people like neonazis that will go into houses and try to take them over
Some areas?
What areas?
The good questions are always buried in the thread.
I would also like to know what areas. I've lived in a lot of places, and never once heard of neonazis just up and taking someone's home, certainly not anywhere like the US. Internet searches turn up nothing. Cite your sources, please.
Source? Or is this like the boogie man?
Especially when they turn around and start leaving.
And won't go out even with a gun if you're so scared, right?
Exactly
This is the nature of widespread gun ownership. Owning a gun turns every argument, every perceived wrong, every bruised ego into a potentially deadly situation. Buying a gun, "for protection," is the dumbest fucking statement I've ever heard. Increasing the number of guns laying around ALWAYS creates a more dangerous environment.
How are you going to protect yourself from threats?
Can you fight?
I'm going to start by determining whether or not said "threats" are actually threats to begin with.
Because most of them aren't. Most gun nuts (disclaimer: I could probably be defined by some standards as a gun nut myself) have this nutty pathological notion that every single person, shadow, and tiny thing that goes bump in the night is personally out to get them. Given the overwhelming majority of non-gun-nut people who do not, in fact, get got on a daily basis despite not even having a gun to defend themselves we can actually conclude that this is just unfounded paranoia.
Just saying.
Yikes, it's crazy the mental gymnastics you're willing to go through to avoid admitting you can't defend yourself.
or even just yelling at kids to get off his driveway