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Special counsel Jack Smith took a meeting with attorneys representing former President Donald Trump earlier this year and reportedly sat in stone-cold silence while they pleaded with him not to indict their client.

Politico reports that ABC News reporter Jonathan Karl's new book on Trump's post-presidential life claims that Trump lawyers Trump attorneys Todd Blanche and John Lauro met with Smith's team over the summer and gave them a list of reasons why charging Trump with crimes related to his efforts to illegally remain in power would be a mistake.

According to Karl, Smith sat through through the presentation without saying a word.

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[–] RojoSanIchiban 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm imagining him staring down the clownfucks while taking bites of his subway sandwich the way Jules looks at Brad as he empties his tasty beverage.

[–] DABDA 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Nice visual! Minor correction for accuracy though, it's *Brett

[–] RojoSanIchiban 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

For nearly 30 years I've thought it was Brad because the "Check out the big brain on Br.." sounds very much like "Brad" and I clearly ignored every other instance of his name. MY LIFE IS A LIE

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[–] FuglyDuck 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Subway? Naw. Jack smith has standards

I’m going to imagine a made-at-home Dagwood’s-esque beauty.

That, or he has an induction burner and he pan seared a giant porterhouse. Maybe fry off some country potatoes and asparagus.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It’s reference to a weird news article a while back about him being seen getting subway for lunch

[–] RojoSanIchiban 6 points 1 year ago

It was one of the first times (if not the first) Jack Smith was shown on camera since being named Special Prosecutor and not an older press photo. He was pointedly ignoring reporters' questions while he walked to the courthouse from the subway across the street, sandwich bag in hand.

He no doubt has great taste, but is also very practical. Potatos would get soggy if he prepared them in the morning, maybe induction cooktop wasn't available, and as a distance runner (or cyclist, I forget) he needed a little cardio, so down the street to the subway! 👍

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[–] Treczoks 65 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd love to see this list of "reasons" published. What do they think they are? Way above the law, or what?

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reason 1: He didn't do anything!
Reason 2: It wasn't that bad!
Reason 3: You're making such a big deal about it!
Reason 4: It wasn't his fault!
Reason 5: He didn't mean it!
Reason 6: You all deserved it!

[–] RGB3x3 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the narcissist's legal defense

[–] Nightwingdragon 22 points 1 year ago

If you've paid attention to the civil trial, this is the exact defense they're using.

[–] bmcgonag 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People really need to realize, Trump is insane. He has never heard anyone tell him he was wrong, or not good enough, or not smart enough, or it was his fault. Now as a "grown man" he believes he can do no wrong. He was buddies with North Korea and Russia because he wants to know how they maintain their power and grip over this countries.

I'm scared to death that not enough peole are taking seriously that he could win again. I hope at least 1 felony will be set as guilty for him, and disqualify him, but then you've got the rest of the herd of nut-jobs that follow him right behind him.

[–] bluemellophone 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

A felony wouldn’t disqualify him.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It actually would be really fucked up if it could as most minorities wouldn't be able to hold elected office, and those felonies are often extremely arbitrary ones put in place by racist jurisdictions with the explicit purpose of denying minorities their right to vote.

The fact that you can lose respect for any of your constitutional rights as a consequence of a court proceeding should terrify everyone.

There are better ways to deal with fascists.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

you really think that most minorities are felons?

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[–] sunbrrnslapper 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, this just sounds like he was being polite. Who would talk through someone's presentation?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Usually something like this would be a bit of a back and forth. But (supposedly) they said nothing, asked no questions, and then just said bye to them when they were done, that indicates a lot more than just being polite.

[–] afraid_of_zombies 13 points 1 year ago

I had a manager who would sit in silence during every negotiation waiting for the tension to break the other person.

I knew that trick before the interview. That was a very awkward several minutes while we just sat looking at each other. He broke the silence and I got the job on the interview.

Yeah he was a weird guy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I think they were joking...

Edit: I posted under the wrong comment, I meant that the commenter above was joking and the 1st comment didn't understand the facetiousness

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's entirely possible, I have to admit I could have totally missed it. Lol

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would, after all their begging and pleading, would hold out my hand and change it to a thumbs down, like the Romans did in the Colosseum.

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[–] afraid_of_zombies 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am Jack's lack of tolerance for bullshit

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

First rule of indictment: Don't bargain with defendant attorneys about indictment. Second rule of indictment: (See above)

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also read the story linked about the nut job that attacked Paul Pelosi as he was waiting to take out his wife Nancy. As much as I would love to think these cases are the exception, they aren't based on the numbers alone.

If I was deranged like this, I would be upset Mr Drink Bleach didn't bail him and others from the Jan 6th event out of jail. Perhaps they are thinking if he returns, then he will do the right thing for their sacrifices?

[–] Wrench 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They learn nothing. The qanon shaman did time, and was called an antifa false flag by his peers. He's trying to run for office now, trying to get the votes of the same people who threw him under the bus the second his story was inconvenient

[–] rayyy 13 points 1 year ago

Mister shaman realizes there is money in them thar morons.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Their presentation was basically The Nightman Cometh.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

They were defeated by friendship and karate?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

When they finally finished, Jack Smith was like "really? No I won't let this slide." and he walked out.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is a really badass way to say he had a meeting where he didn't say anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really hate news headlines these days. Feels like they're written for morons with no attention span.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I do this in nearly every meeting. FUCK YEAH.

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[–] killeronthecorner 13 points 1 year ago

Caged rats on a sinking ship. Do them a favour and throw the cage in the water.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (12 children)

Do you guys think there is still a chance that Trump gets elected again?

[–] Orbituary 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't you? If anyone doubts he has a chance, you're not scared enough.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit, now you really scared me 😳

[–] teamevil 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm fucking terrified we're on our way to the Idiocracy 4th Reich.

[–] sock 7 points 1 year ago

the hard pill to swallow is we arent even as good as Idiocracy

at least in Idiocracy the authorities listened to the "expert" and solved the systemic issues.

[–] baldingpudenda 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's been avoiding the debates. His rallies are basically a greatest hits from 2016, even though he was president already and could have fixed those things. he's now using dictator language to dehumanize the opposition so his thugs will be more likely to use violence. All this and he's leading the Republican race. He'll run from prison because the Republicans are purely for power now and clearly won't relinquish it next time.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Yes, it's still america

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 1 year ago

People asked similar questions in 2016. Right up to election day.

[–] tym 4 points 1 year ago

If the results of the trials done disqualify him, then yes this is his beer hall putsch. We're about to get a dictator if we don't have a blue army voting in droves.

We should all be very afraid.

[–] shalafi 4 points 1 year ago

Any chance at all? Maybe. But the obvious thing I don't see many comments about is that he cannot gain supporters, only lose them.

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