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[–] chiliedogg 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If Trump backs down on the tariffs, Canada should only back down halfway. Make it clear there are permanent consequences every time he fucks with the world economy on a whim.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not an optional strategy even though it feels like it should be. With this kind of animal you either go tit for tat or scorched earth.

[–] chiliedogg 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

It's not Trump you're negotiating with with that kind of strategy. It's the GOP.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 2 points 2 days ago

I meant to write optimal, sorry.

The problem with trying to sway the GOP is that right now each one of them is about as charming as a poultry farm, and you need some charisma to build an oppositional faction within the party. If you were talking about a Schwarzenegger-led "normalcy" caucus we'd be cooking, but the current rogue's gallery is as dull as dishwater and half as palatable.

[–] BlameTheAntifa 27 points 3 days ago

We get it. By all means, Trudeau, bring the pain. Show America there are consequences. If you don’t, this will happen again. And again. And again.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 days ago

We get it. Bring on the pain. Seriously. Fuck Trump.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago
[–] JeeBaiChow 72 points 3 days ago (8 children)

The Americans chose, or allowed their opponents to choose him. The voters own all of the next 4 years.

But yes, when was the last time inaction in protest worked?

[–] WhatsHerBucket 29 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What happens in 4 years? I’d be surprised if there was another election for a while.

[–] then_three_more 19 points 3 days ago

They'll have an election. You just won't be allowed to vote against the glorious leader.

Or a marginally less cynical take, targeted voter surpression will mean that only republicans get elected president. So in four years they'll get president Vance.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] werefreeatlast 2 points 3 days ago

Place your bets folks! Does he croak in office and We get another asshole at the helm? So many possibilities

$10,000->choking on peanut

$1000->exactly as the Simpson predicted

$200->Boeing misshalf..don't worry they'll fix it

$5->COVID

$1->accidental window fall

$0.5->not accidental window fall..10 stories

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 43 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If we’re truly a government “of the people, by the people, and for the people” then we did it to ourselves.

If we’re not that then we should “dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another”

[–] Beetschnapps 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s on ourselves. It sucks but here we are….

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (5 children)

We've been railroaded if not cheated every step of the way. It's not our fault, though it is our responsibility

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

That bit makes more sense when you factor in Scotus making corporations people.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Yes, be more direct and be human. Explaining thing like “ETMI5” will get your point/message across and be understood. Like others have said, if we, the US, back down, Canada should only roll back half way after a certain period of time. We have to learn our lesson. The president is being an uneducated child and he represents us, we should be treated like a child. We all learned a lesson before and we lived and learn. Time to do so again. Turn up the heat!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is there a website that hosts the video and actually works?

[–] roguetrick 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It's got too high of a tariff to be served to you.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago
[–] eran_morad 16 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Pretty much, yeah. Republicans are malignant tumors.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

it's democracy, it's written in the name. i remember a college professor constantly on about the need for a constitutional convention, wrote a book or some shit.

I was like, you know the crazies will consume any such convention, right?

challenging him kinda fucked it up but i was not wrong.

[–] jordanlund 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Not really "our government". Trump has chosen to do this.

[–] Drivebyhaiku 37 points 3 days ago (18 children)

It is your government. This is your head of state and the head of the US government weilding power that once belonged to Congress but ceeded to the executive branch about a hundred years ago. This man represents you.

I understand it is uncomfortable. That you wish it wasn't so I get it... But Do not diminish this fact because these are the stakes. He is your, I repeat Your, Government. Do not wash your hands of him acting as he does because in your silence and denial he still acts on your behalf and you need so much more than silence and denial.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 11 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Nope you guys wanted this by either not voting or by voting trump.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Imo its more nuanced than that.

If there was only the popular vote, which makes more sense than electorate fuckery, we would have avoided round 1 in 2016.

The system of political choice is really broken in the US, that was just one example. None of us chose the political system we use, we are presented with limited and similar options for representation every two years in a first past the post vote.

I agree that we failed to prevent this, but the system is kind of rigged

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool 3 points 3 days ago

I don’t care about the nuance, that’s your idiot country’s problem. I care about the jackass you guys put in charge

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