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Good news, having such an eye-awakening experience at an impressionable age can drive people left-wing for their lifetime. Same has happened during Trump-1, Bush-2 and Bush-3, (now in Canadian politics) the Walkerton Crisis, the Mulroney days, and now hopefully with Doug Ford.
Bad news: They already got played, and they might get played again in 4 years with billions of big tech money intended to distract the masses.
We're going to be damned lucky if we get the chance for people to be played again.
It will happen, might take a generation or three.
This is all so depressing... Its like there needs to be a massive war every so many years so people remember why it's important to have a democracy and be kind to one another.
Question of when, not if. Fascism isn't sustainable, it will fail eventually (but gods is depressing to think of it getting real bad)
There's a famous quote about investing by Garry Shilling: "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent." Sure, you can say "this is definitely a bubble" and "it will eventually revert to the mean," but fat lot of good that does you if you've already been screwed by the time it happens.
Similarly, it's easy to say that dictatorships are doomed to failure "eventually," but that "eventually" can easily be beyond your lifetime. Just look at North Korea, for instance.
We'll probably find out in 2 years when seats of Congress are up for election again.
If that were true, trump wouldn't have won his first term or his second.
Republicans can rest easy, they will forget by 2028, 2030 at the latest.
We thought GenZ was going to save us, but that was bullshit.
I work with a few in a DEEP BLUE state in a field in which the majority of my co-workers have been liberal and they're Trumpers. Morons who grew up on social media and had their minds warped by it. Fell for the alpha male bullshit too.
They aren't going to save us. They're pretty dumb.
Yeah. I've got a high school teacher in my life, they told me recently that many of their Seniors can't do what Freshmen could just ten years ago, and they have a shocking amount of Seniors who can't even read at a second grade level (they teach general ed, not special ed). I mean, not five or twelve of them, but like 30 or 40 percent. They say the kids struggle super hard these days (again, relative to Freshmen a decade ago) to analyze text and form original thoughts, and it's almost like they've all been trained to just be told what to think. In a way, I guess that's true, thanks to the Algorithm. I think we're seeing the fruit of that; the algorithm has told these boys what to think, and now they get to find out for themselves what the consequences of that is.
Surprise the iPad kid generation that were brought up on 4chsn derived troll culture are not bastions of virtue.
Like I have a zoomer nephew, and he's genuinely a good kid at heart, and his mum raised him well, but he also showed me things like videos of people harassing kids in video games until they meltdown like it was the funniest shit in the world, and also thinks Trump is super funny.
Being a shitty person is just good "content".
It’s almost like a ton of zoomers weren’t paying attention to what the fuck he was doing last time around.
If you think about it, a TON of zoomers were maybe 10 years old when he started his shit.
It's literally all they have known for most of their formative years. I blame their parents more then them. They never talked to their kids about what he's doing apparently.
I tell my two kids that what he is doing is evil, and anyone who follows him is broken in some form or another. I tell them ALL the stuff our country has done, good and bad, and to keep learning, keep questioning, and most of all: beware of people like him. They are world enders.
He's the funny guy from all their memes. They love those memes!
A lot of people were the same age when GWB was signing the Patriot Act and didn't realize the consequences of his presidency until much later. Young people are impressionable but they do change.
I mean who knew he would be against DEI and immigrants?
You mean that?
Well these days I'm starting to think I have to put
/s
behind every statement since I'm hearing so many people say things so friggin bizarre I never suspected I would ever hear such a thing and expect they were actually serious.
that's just a weirdo who replies with "you mean that" to every comment they see that starts with "I mean"
Well if this election has taught us anything...
I think these polls are bullshit. The same gen Z kids who voted Trump after being brainwashed for years watching Rogan, Shapiro, etc rail on DEI, trans, 'wokeism' and 'open borders' haven't suddenly changed their opinion once Trump's started enacting policies that aim to enact those goals.
These kids just recognize how unpopular these actions are in the wider community and are lying to pollsters now. It's virtue signalling. They'll continue to vote right-wing imho
I don't trust polls anymore. Trump wasn't supposed to win '16 and it wasn't supposed to be a blowout '24 according to polls.
Hillary had an 80% chance of winning according to polls. That's a lot, but Trump still had a 20% chance. That doesn't really detract from the polls as much as from the reporting on said polls.
What sucks is he only won the popular vote by about 2 million votes. A lot of these states misrepresent their population with the electoral college and gerrymandering.
Gerrymandering would only change a state's electoral college votes meaningfully in one or two states.
It's more often an issue of:
Cannot wait for the types of gen z voters that voted for a dipshit like donvict to turn around and blame "boomers" for their issues.
They kinda already are. Though they seem to be blaming the Democrats for not doing enough to convince them to not be stupid.
Being raised by social media has caused some issues with them. They seem to value the ability to say whatever you need to say to get to the top of the algorithm and aren't able to question the algorithm itself.
I hate articles like this. He won, he is in power. He will be in power for 4 years. His popularity doesn't matter anymore.
The popularity of the President has a great effect on what happens in the midterm elections.
Ofc that's dependant on us having a free and fair midterm election by then
He will be in power for 4 years
minimum
He'll be in power for only the next 23 months if we can get a supermajority of sane, congresspeople with backbones elected in 2026. So yeah, he'll be in power for 4+ years.
That's odd because the only Gen z people who liked Trump were the paid Russian propogandists that were creating all the fake bullshit memes for him
I listened in on a conversation between two young male Kroger union members before the election (the store is unionized so maybe that was an assumption, it's a right to work state...)
They both agreed they were voting for Trump. I can't speak to their unspoken motivations but what I can tell you is they absolutely voted on vibes and didn't have a goddamn clue what was coming for them.
I don't know what brain rotted the Gen Z boys in a way that didn't work on the Gen Z girls but I can tell you it wasn't fake, those kids are not alright.
Maybe this will be Gen Z's Afghanistan and Iraq, the events that push them left against Republican abuse, but I'm not sure they'll have a chance when they're getting a steady diet of algorithmic propaganda.
While an overload of mindless far-right, conservative, bigoted, and transphobic videos on TikTok, YouTube, and Instagram, and similar posts on Facebook and Twitter, undoubtedly played a large part in indoctrinating so many people (as has been the case in countries such as Hungary and Turkey), it's still crazy that so many people were suckered in by Trump's lies about reducing inflation, when his first term in office proved how shitty he was, as well as the reason why Roe vs. Wade was overturned. It shouldn't have taken countless constitutional violations in only the first month of a second term as president for people to realize that.
If corporate oligarchs haven't fully dismantled what remains of the country's severely flawed democracy in four years' time, then there's every chance that they'll buy the presidency again in 2028, apathetic to the rise of fascism and the dismantlement of civil rights.