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Good news, having such an eye-awakening experience at an impressionable age can drive people left-wing for their lifetime. Same has happened during Trump-1, Bush-2 and Bush-3, (now in Canadian politics) the Walkerton Crisis, the Mulroney days, and now hopefully with Doug Ford.
Bad news: They already got played, and they might get played again in 4 years with billions of big tech money intended to distract the masses.
We're going to be damned lucky if we get the chance for people to be played again.
It will happen, might take a generation or three.
This is all so depressing... Its like there needs to be a massive war every so many years so people remember why it's important to have a democracy and be kind to one another.
Question of when, not if. Fascism isn't sustainable, it will fail eventually (but gods is depressing to think of it getting real bad)
There's a famous quote about investing by Garry Shilling: "the market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent." Sure, you can say "this is definitely a bubble" and "it will eventually revert to the mean," but fat lot of good that does you if you've already been screwed by the time it happens.
Similarly, it's easy to say that dictatorships are doomed to failure "eventually," but that "eventually" can easily be beyond your lifetime. Just look at North Korea, for instance.
north korea isn't doomed to failure by virtue of how incredible aggressively their abuse their citizenship.
By literally ANY metric of the definition of failure, except for "dissolution" north korea has utterly failed their citizens. They've only managed to keep control through force.
It won't be luck that will save your democracy, it will be determination.
We'll probably find out in 2 years when seats of Congress are up for election again.
Theres 3 seats up for special elections here soon because of appointments for the house I believe
Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about that. Thanks for reminding me!
You still think there are going to be free and open elections?
Yes, in blue states. State governments are responsible for elections, not Federal. I expect plenty of fraud and worse-than-usual voter suppression in Republican-governed states, though.
Our recount has shown that President Trump has won the midterms with 103% voting in favor of him.
the concern here is that if the redwall we saw in the presidential election persists into the midterms, it may not matter what blue states vote, it's entirely dependent on how well the general public views the current administration as doing, and if that's "poorly" they'll get fucked and we'll swing blue, if not, nothing happens.
If enough of the population thinks they did a good job, for whatever reason, it may not be recoverable at all.
I'm assuming that there won't be another Democrat in the White House in the foreseeable future due to corrupt red state governments. Elections will be good for for state things and that's it.
i highly doubt that will be the case, but it's technically a possibility, at least given the current electoral college, i doubt the congress won't see another democrat though.
The US historically tends to swing between republican and democrat aggressively, this cycle is no exception thus far, i expect a far left swing after this term is over.
I’ll echo the other reply - red states will not have them, blue and some purple states will. I suspect we will continue to have the facade of democracy for a while, and may see the Democrats take the House and maybe the Senate in 2026.
The real question is, if there are elections in 2028, and the Republicans lose, will there be a transfer of power? I don’t have a good feeling about the answer, but only time will tell. Four years is a long time for an obese old man with a very stressful job to live, and I don’t think there is anyone who can easily take over Trump’s cult of personality and take the reins of the fascist movement.
They're completely ignoring congress right now and they control both chambers. You think they're going to start listening if the democrats gain control?!
This will not be solved by an election. Germany couldn't vote away Hitler. Russia can't vote away Putin. And America can't vote away ~~Elon~~ Trump.
Anyone who believes there is a peaceful way they can sit on their ass and hopefully maybe one day vote the problem away is in denial.
i imagine there will have to be, otherwise there will literally be a civil war. Unless they rig voting somehow.
I hope so. Also, I feel like saying things like this only make more people fall into the defeatist attitude which tends lead to lower voter turn out. I get where you're coming from, but we have to at least try.
If that were true, trump wouldn't have won his first term or his second.
Republicans can rest easy, they will forget by 2028, 2030 at the latest.
Harper and Mike Harris for me.
There’s a Bush-3? In Canada? Sounds like the sequel to a really bad movie nobody liked and everyone is wondering why it even got made.
If we're counting election cycles there were 4 bushes. none in canada afaik though
I count Bush-1 as 1989, Bush-2 as 2001 and Bush-3 as 2005.