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[–] oakey66 89 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] pdxfed 41 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That dickhead got roasted for "concepts of a plan", but just when you think the Democratic party can't get any more pathetic they go and show how hopeless they are. AOC needs to break and start a party with Bernie.

[–] rockSlayer 16 points 6 days ago

It probably wouldn't take much to get Omar and Tlaib on board either.

[–] solrize 61 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Spoiler alert: it will be "send us more money!". That's what they always settle on.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Nailed it. This is and always will be the dem’s platform.

[–] garretble 51 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Step 1: put AOC and Bernie in charge

Step 2: Let em go ham

At least do…something.

[–] FlyingSquid 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party right now.

[–] elrik 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Might be the best reason to put him in charge.

[–] FlyingSquid 5 points 6 days ago

I'd love him to be in charge, but I doubt it will happen. I'm actually surprised he hasn't retired yet considering his age. I'm glad he's still fighting the good fight though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

We have no fucking time. They told us, explicitly, what they were going to do.

Any halfway decent opposition party would have already had responses ready for each and every one of the executive orders that have been signed

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Oh no, they may be forced to put out likable candidates?

[–] Ensign_Crab 32 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or treat the left as though they are voters with agency?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Am I so out of touch?

No, it's the voters who are wrong.

[–] Omegamanthethird 4 points 6 days ago

Both? Both.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It’s amazing that these assholes need time. Fuck off with the triangulation. It didn’t work in the election and it won’t work now.

The only thing they have to do is take a principled stand in favor of people. Everyone has value (besides Nazis). But they are too interested in appealing to corporate interests and republicans.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Exactly. They need time to figure out a strategy where they can appeal to their base while also proposing contradictory public policy that harms their base. Judging by their performance in the past three presidential elections, this strategy will never exist but it sure as hell hasn't caused them to do any sort of self reflection.

[–] BeMoreCareful 26 points 6 days ago

We've decided to rename the Democrat party to Republican Lite in order to appeal to more voters.

[–] Stamau123 36 points 6 days ago

“Personally, I don’t want to give Republicans an inch on their claims they care about national security after their pardons,” said Murphy, D-Conn. “My hope is that we’re going to be down on the floor and on TV and back in our states talking about the danger of these pardons.”

At least there's someone awake at the wheel

[–] aeronmelon 32 points 6 days ago (2 children)

They’ll figure out some way to reach across the aisle and meet in the middle.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 days ago (2 children)

By the time they're done reaching it's gonna look like they too are doing a Nazi salute.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago

This would make a good cartoon.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

It's a long-distance high five!

/s

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago

Like "mandatory Nazi salutes in schools but only on Monday, Wednesday, and Fridays."

[–] Fisherman75 4 points 4 days ago

Well the republicans are in some kind of hyperfascist accelerationist mode so I'm not sure exactly how much time we have to give them.

[–] sudo42 12 points 5 days ago

Translation: "We need time to figure out a way to look like we're doing something without risking actually changing anything."

If we're not careful, we might accidentally do something that the voters like but that our owners don't approve of.

[–] GoofSchmoofer 18 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

I'm wondering where are the big names in the Democratic party and the left?

There is a palpable atmosphere of fear coming from a large population in America and there is silence from the "opposition" party. Why isn't Obama and Michelle organizing and speaking at rallies? Why aren't other prominent Democratic leaders not trying to rally support for a genuine resistance. Not the resistance of 2016, which I feel failed due to no true national leadership from the Democratic party.

Maybe this is happening and I just don't see it, but it sure feels like the national Democratic leaders and influencers just threw up their hands and said "well, we've tried nothing and we are all out of ideas. You're on your own to figure it out. But remember, if your leaderless pent up fear and anger turns to violence we won't support you."

[–] gashead76 10 points 6 days ago

I’ve been wondering that as well and I had a kind of scary thought; maybe there is no opposition party this time around because what’s happening is exactly what all parties involved want to be happening. I’m just so baffled by the state of politics in the US that I can’t help but to feel like we’re witnessing some kind of sea change in the fundamental structure of the government. Unfortunately it is not a progressive or thoughtful change in ideology.

[–] sudo42 6 points 5 days ago

Maybe this is happening and I just don’t see it

Then they're not doing it right.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Shit, even what we had in 2016 was at least something

[–] Ensign_Crab 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Gee. Maybe they should have come up with one some time between 2015 and now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Ideally people would have seriously punished Ford for letting that Nixon prick get off scot free and fought against the personality cult that was built up for Reagan, but if we’re talking about this century, the democrats should have come up with something as soon as the tea party lunatics got in position to kneecap public sector unions during the first Obama administration.

It didn’t help that the occupy protesters were made to look like their message was a motley hodgepodge of pet causes with no real cohesiveness.

[–] HappySkullsplitter 24 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid 3 points 6 days ago

You mean what got Trump elected the first time?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

You've had 8 years, 4 of which you had control of the white house. You've had enough time. You squandered it. Are you really going to do anything useful with even more?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Ensign_Crab 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Democrats kept the filibuster around for this reason, right? They didn't just keep it around to prevent progressive policy from passing, right?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The second they try to use it, the republicans will nuke it, citing the precedent that the democrats did it first with lower court judicial nominees when they refused to let a single one pass, same way they did with scotus nominees when democrats dared to use it one time in protest against the stunt they pulled with Garland.

Force Dems to reign in minority power the tiniest bit and use that as an excuse to remove minority powers entirely the second they're in the majority is pretty standard Rep SOP now.

[–] Ensign_Crab 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Then the only point in preserving the filibuster was to block progressive legislation.

At least Democrats didn't have to codify Roe or pass the John Lewis Voting Rights Act.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Trust me, I'm in agreement with you there. They really need to get their heads out of their asses and stop acting like the GOP fascists are going to follow the rules and act with integrity.

And I'm being awfully generous here with assuming there's a chance it isn't malicious on their part, that maybe they really are just that incompetent to have missed the reality of this situation. Even though I don't have much hope of that anymore.

[–] FlyingSquid 16 points 6 days ago (1 children)

How about the guiding principle that Nazis are the enemy of America?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

They'll see that as too controversial, wouldn't want to divide the people...

(/s, just in case)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah if they were a real party for the people they wouldn't need to search too long.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They wouldn't have lost either.

Pelosi tanking kneecapping any attempt to curb congressional insider trading certainly didn't help. Nor did funding a fucking genocide. Their continued subservience to donors over their voters drives people away.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

Yes time and time again they've proven that they're willing to put anything and everything ahead of helping the American people. They want to have their cake and eat it too and are willing to go as far as losing elections if it means they don't have to turn their backs on corporations or foreign governments engaging in genocide.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

Those dinosaurs have had too much time already.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

"we gotta get more racist"