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[–] Mr_Fish 73 points 6 days ago (4 children)

That is an appeal to authority, but not a fallacious one. Lawmakers know a lot about how and why people steal. Fallacious appeal to authority is when the authority you're talking about has no knowledge of the topic, for example quoting a psychologist on nutrition advice.

[–] Wogi 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Lawmakers don't know shit about fuck. Sometimes they have experts available they listen to. Otherwise it's whoever spends the most, who they're buddies with, or what just feels like it will jive with their base at the time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Wogi 15 points 6 days ago

Fallacy fallacy.

Sometimes a person is insufferable and that's the problem.

Like with lawmakers.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago

It's also not whataboutism...

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[–] nialv7 52 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 days ago (3 children)

"No."

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Why do people deflect instead of just saying no?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I was struggling to understand that for a long time too. It seems like it's a mix of being told that just saying no is not polite and an aversion to conflict. Especially when stating needs.

Some parents actively discourage their children to state their needs clearly and concisely from a very very young age.

[–] Hackworth 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Companies that give personality tests in the hiring process are largely looking at your "agreeableness" score. We're constantly taught (from an early age, as you mention) that the default answer should be "Yes." If you're creative, you might push it to "Yes, and..." But a plain "no" from anyone who isn't explicitly labeled as a "leader" is a non-starter in systems obsessed with hierarchy.

There are really only three options. Try to climb an existing hierarchy. Make your own hierarchy and place yourself atop it. Or operate within and between hierarchies without unnecessarily validating their existence. That last one's increasingly difficult by design. And honestly, the second one usually requires exploiting others.

[–] WoodScientist 3 points 5 days ago

Sure, that's fine in IRL. It fails on any kind of discussion board though, at least for anything not as comically egregious as "give me your banking details."

[–] DragonsInARoom 2 points 5 days ago

Slippery slope, you have to give the ATM your bank details

[–] Madison420 52 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (6 children)

I've actually had this dispute on Lemmy.

Dude kept insisting I tell him my income but refused to say how or why it would be relevant.

Ed: no joke, it was flyingsquid too which is a bit more funny tbh.

It's a very sensible conclusion when I've asked you how rich you are multiple times and you refuse to answer. Even after I told you my economic situation.

You're rich and you are embarrassed about it because it makes you look just as callous and dismissive of the poor as Elon.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (4 children)

To be fair, you did call them a petty tyrant for making a joke about trolling the sovcit posts as an IRS agent.

Also made me curious if you do enjoy some light tax evasion or are into the whole "I don't pay taxes because I am the only citizen in my own nation inside your nation" thing

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Your first mistake was choosing to debate one of the most argumentative people on Lemmy. Can only get weird from there

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[–] Speculater 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420 25 points 6 days ago (3 children)

More than a dollar less than several billion.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Valmond 3 points 5 days ago

Lets start a club!

[–] tanisnikana 4 points 6 days ago

I bet it’s even more than a thousand dollars a year!

If it isn’t, I’m so sorry buddy, and I hope your situation improves somehow.

[–] DragonsInARoom 2 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

That’s something only a Geringverdiener™ would say!

/s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's such a low bar for "rich". The difference between a millionaire and a billionaire is about a billion dollars.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

About the same ratio as the difference between a thousandaire and a millionaire?

inb4 the tenionaire crowd flaunt their wealth.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 days ago (3 children)

The best answer to that question avoids all fallacies.

"No"

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] InnerScientist 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think gigachad could argue that it's Invincible Ignorance.

[–] InnerScientist 5 points 5 days ago

That sounds like admitting defeat "you don't care about any arguments I could make"

[–] DragonsInARoom 2 points 5 days ago

Slippery slope, if its no all the time you'll encounter a situation when yes is a critical answer.

[–] InputZero 2 points 5 days ago

That's a single authority falacy, in this case there is only one opinion, the person who's protecting their financial information, to promote the idea of not looking into someone's bank account. When there could be a legitimate reason to look into a person's finances.

In all seriousness in so far as the meme is presenting itself single authority is prudent. Like what if every decision about yourself everyone was always a stakeholder? That would be hell.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 6 days ago

Why did you post a screenshot of every argument I've ever been on on this platform?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

Fallacy fallacy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

I will gladly send you my banking details

Sarcasm is last refuge of the wittless .

[–] RedditWanderer 8 points 6 days ago

That's almost what those words mean

[–] Live_Let_Live 5 points 5 days ago

actually funny meme

[–] SpruceBringsteen 7 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

oh no. I've been on the left-hand side of this before. I knew what I was doing.

[–] techt 6 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Sure, my account number is 1 2 3 4 5

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

What's your lemmy password?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] YarHarSuperstar 7 points 6 days ago

Why did you just post a bunch of asterisks?

[–] indepndnt 3 points 5 days ago

It's 942822688476

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