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In a surprising turn of events, a well-known flat-earther conceded that his long-held conspiracy theory was incorrect after embarking on a 9,000-mile journey to Antarctica.

YouTuber Jeran Campanella traveled to the southernmost continent to witness a 24-hour sun - a phenomenon that would be impossible if the Earth were flat.

"I realize that I'll be called a shill for just saying that and you know what, if you're a shill for being honest so be it - I honestly believed there was no 24-hour sun... I honestly now believe there is. That's it," added Campanella.

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Campanella still didn't fully embrace the globe Earth model: “I won’t say the Earth is a perfect sphere,” then said, after first admitting he was wrong.

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The expedition was part of the Final Experiment project, organized by Colorado pastor Will Duffy, who "hopes to end the debate over the shape of the Earth."

The expedition was part of the Final Experiment project, organized by Colorado pastor Will Duffy, who "hopes to end the debate over the shape of the Earth."

He arranged an expedition in which four flat Earthers and four "globe Earthers" were flown to Antarctica to witness the continent's midnight Sun. Antarctica's Midnight Sun is one of many proofs that the Earth is spherical. It can only occur on a tilted and rotating sphere, and the axial tilt during summer positions the South Pole to face the Sun continuously for 24 hours.

Flat Earthers often claim that the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 prevents civilians from visiting the southernmost continent in an attempt to hide the true shape of planet Earth. However, Pastor Duffy wanted to demonstrate that this wasn't the case.

"I created The Final Experiment to end this debate, once and for all. After we go to Antarctica, no one has to waste any more time debating the shape of the Earth," Duffy declared in a statement. "This is, of course, assuming that the entire "experiment" isn't just an elaborate prank designed to fool us 'globe Earthers.' It seems highly unlikely, but we'll keep you posted if anything changes – not that we're trying to sound conspiratorial or paranoid."

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

Now we just need to raise enough money to fly each of these crazies from pole to pole. Ugh...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When many different people tell you that you are a fucking moron, at some point you need to listen and reassess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Darwin would have to disagree.

Heck a large part our planets science history were considered morons when they proposed ideas.

This guy trully is a moron. But the human races history of collective judgement is far from good.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Seems excessive to go to Antarctica to get 24 hour sun. Just go to upper Sweden or something.

[–] gex 2 points 5 hours ago

They believe the south pole is the edge of the earth, so a 24 hour earth is only possible in the north pole

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It help to also demonstrate that the stars are oriented differently in the southern hemisphere

[–] Uruanna 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Not when the Sun is blocking them 24 hours a day though. Sorry, stars are closed, come back in 6 months.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 23 hours ago

Flat earth theory is flat ocean theory. It can be tested with a telescope on an tripod and any land mass at least 10 miles away over the ocean.

One doesn’t need to go to the ends of the map to disprove flat earth. Just far enough to see whether the surface of the ocean is curved or not.

[–] GaMEChld 32 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The Earth is not a perfect sphere, nor is it argued to be. It is an oblate spheroid. It bulges at the equator due to the spinning. Additionally, if it were perfectly spherical, we wouldn't have changes in elevation, mountains, etc.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If I shrunk it down to the same size the earth would be smoother than a billiard ball.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 4 points 22 hours ago

Yup. The earth is definitely not round, but we only really notice the hills and valleys because of the scale. The earth may not be smooth when you’re a tiny organism living on it, but it is smooth when you’re looking at it from a much larger perspective.

[–] KneeTitts 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Well the problem with flat earthers has never been lack of evidence, its mental illness and gulibility

[–] GaMEChld 3 points 1 day ago

Oh sure, but it's good to point out their stupidity from multiple angles. Instead of trying to refute them, I'm attacking the very premise. It's fun pointing out that the "side" they are arguing against isn't even making the claims they are making.

[–] badbytes 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Why, do we give credence to the mentally insane. It's 2024.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

Because its 2024. The mentally insane have way more ability to be heard then ever.

Prior to the 2000s they never had much option to talk to each other.

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[–] ohwhatfollyisman 178 points 1 day ago (6 children)

this person should be celebrated, not ridiculed. we all could stand to learn from him no matter how divergent our views on life are.

he sought evidence willingly and did not dismiss it out of hand when it didn't support his hypothesis. in fact, he has gone further and rejected that hypothesis.

his starting point may have been misinformed but he has had the courage to use the scientific method to recalibrate. i salute him.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

He dug in his heels and refused any facts and evidence until someone else spent a pile of money to give him something he could no longer argue with.

Yes, he finally admitted the earth may not be flat. Things everyone with a brain already knew. Refusing to listen to experts and insisting you know better until you personally are given special treatment to be shown you are wrong is not something to be applauded.

Fuck this guy for taking it this far.

[–] ByteJunk 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Kudos to the guy for admitting he was wrong, but I wouldn't celebrate it too much.

If they're able to disregard and misinterpret all the available proof regarding Earth's shape, something is fundamentally wrong. Either they lack the... mental acuity to deal with abstract concepts, or they're severely lacking in critical thinking.

At least the second one can be overcome if one commits to learning in a structured way, but the first one...

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[–] Lauchs 44 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Exactlty. I found this a really uplifting story.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 23 hours ago

He knew for years

[–] Nastybutler 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All I know is that if I was a hiring manager for any position above fry cook, my first question for potential hires would be to ask if they believe the earth is round. If they answer "no" it would save me a lot of time.

[–] GreenKnight23 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

can't ask people about their personal beliefs directly. you could form it from a series of questions though.

  • are you willing to travel across the globe for client needs?
  • how many flights would it take you to get from here to x if you flew around the planet?
  • what shape is our planet?
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

are you willing to travel across the globe for client needs?

No, I have a fear of planes and enjoy spending time with my family after work. Is this required to get this assistant manager job at your McDonald's branch?

how many flights would it take you to get from here to x if you flew around the planet?

Sorry but I already told you I'm afraid to fly, please stop talking about it. Do you ask white people the same type of questions?

what shape is our planet?

I'll be contacting a lawyer about this.

[–] GreenKnight23 1 points 2 hours ago

yeah, I wouldn't care if you think we lived on mars for any job at a McDonnell's. asking would be super pointless. If you were interviewing for a position in corporate accounting, different story.

also, by bringing race into the discussion itself would immediately end further questioning and the interview would be over.

I actually interviewed a person who did this, and they pretty much asked exactly what you asked. I politely ended the interview and told them we might reach out for another interview. we did not because they tainted the relationship by implying they were not getting appropriate treatment without knowing how other interviews were handled.

I'm a very difficult interviewer and I push applicants very hard, because the positions they will be holding are high stress high impact. I need to see how they deal under immense pressure and sometimes people take it personally. I get it, emotions run high and people snap back. that's not who I'm looking for. I want high functioning employees that can perform their duties under stress.

generally I stay far away from personal questions other than ice breakers like, favorite TV show right now, what kind of projects do you like to work on, if you had a super power what would it be.

I can read people very well and usually find the right people for the position.

[–] Nastybutler 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

How about "Is the earth round?" It's an objective fact, not a question about beliefs.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Do I also get a free trip to Antarctica, if I pretend to be fucking retarded?

[–] frostysauce 2 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Can we stop casually using the r-word slur? And stop using it at all while we're at it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

Thank you. I'm getting so tired of people acting superior to others but behaving like scum.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I actually recently lost almost 2 standard deviations from my IQ due to TBI and am AuDHD. Perhaps you should ask a handicapable MF?

[–] frostysauce 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Big time "I'm bi so I can call people f****ts" energy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Well, a very gay colleague of mine came to a costume party without a costume and when he was asked why he didn't have one he simply replied "I'm dressed as a f*g".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Whats wrong with dressing like a fig? They are delicious!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What they failed to mention in the article is that the four flat earthers didn't have a return ticket.

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[–] Thcdenton 22 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The hard part isn't being a dumbass, the hard part is being a 'well known' dumbass

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 day ago

Campanella still didn’t fully embrace the globe Earth model: “I won’t say the Earth is a perfect sphere,” then said, after first admitting he was wrong.

Lol whatever lets you save face, bud... But FYI, scientists don't believe this either.

[–] then_three_more 79 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Campanella still didn't fully embrace the globe Earth model: "I won't say the Earth is a perfect sphere,"

This is correct. It's an oblate spheroid, calling it a perfect sphere is an incorrect simplification.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (7 children)

Yo I also don't believe the earth is spherical, someone should fund sending me to Antarctica to prove me wrong

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago

Yeah yeah, I don't believe, put me in orbit. I won't have a good time I promise.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The most surprising thing is that a Flat Earther actually admitted that they were wrong!

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