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Think of it like a video game HUD where there's just text floating above a person's head where you see all their political beliefs, including the degree of bigotry (if any), or whether or not the person believes in the use of violence to acheive polical goals, basically every little detail that would accurately depict people's political beliefs. Your beliefs are also visible to others. This effect has 1KM radius, including people above and below you.

So, how fucked are you?

(Think of all the authorities in your area that can see your beliefs, including the beliefs regarding the recent incident...)

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[–] frog_brawler 4 points 2 days ago

I think if everyone was generally more aware of the details of everyone else’s political beliefs, we’d collectively be much less fucked than we are today.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

I'm white, I'm male, I'm straight, cis-gendered, and middle-class. My neighbours aren't going to bother me. And if they also become aware of what "anarcho-communism" means in the process, they wouldn't even blink.

Thr police might not appreciate my thoughts on them, but I think they'd suddenly have way less public support in this scenario, so meh.

[–] surph_ninja 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you’re engaging online at all, or donating to any politicians, the authorities are already aware of your politics.

Depends on the implementation for me. I’m in the southern US. If it just says ‘socialist,’ I’m probably fucked. But if it actually shows policies I support, like ‘everyone is entitled to own the output of their own labor,’ then most people would probably agree with me. People are propagandized against the socialist/communist label, but most of them agree with the policies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Depends on the specific "socialism" you believe in.

For example, I still belive in a democratic system, I just want less of capitalism. So its would probably show me as either "Social Democrat" or "Democratic Socialist". But it would also show my opposition to those "Marxist Leninist" variants of "Socialism". Like "Opposed to the 'communists' in USSR and China" would probably be one of the labels that it shows.

Well, lucky I live in a blue city, so hopefully nobody would attack me for it.

If you explain your specfic beliefs before you get shot, maybe you could survive? Maybe...

[–] surph_ninja 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why be satisfied with just a little justice? Why be satisfied with a little more crumbs, and not going for the full lot?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Social democracy has proven to have some degree of sucess.

Those Vanguardism types such as USSR and China only devolves into totalitarian regimes just with a different group of capitalists in power. China has nothing that resembles what real socialism should be, its just capitalism under a different banner.

[–] surph_ninja 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

China has lifted more people out of poverty than any country or economic system in history. You can’t do that under capitalism, because the gains are too concentrated. You’ve just been propagandized against China.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I lived in China, I have first-hand experience. Don't get me wrong, I hate capitalism, and China is a capitalist state, just like the US.

[–] surph_ninja 0 points 1 day ago

Then how did they lift a record number of people out of poverty? Capitalism creates more poverty. Not less.

[–] iamtrashman1312 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh, everybody can already see that. I'm a man in my 30s and I still wear my punk vest everywhere. My feelings on cops, Nazis, and fascists are made pretty clear on it, while anyone who recognizes basic anarchist emblems will see those too. It doesn't do a perfect 1:1 job of communicating my beliefs, but I'm more open and specific with what I believe than any coward in a red hat

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Why does everybody think that so many people will just straight up murder everybody who doesn't share their politics?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

This is quietly a major issue in America. Fear of discourse and self-censorship. Leads to more and more echo chambers and anti-democratic behavior. :(

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Also why would they come for you if you are progessive and leftist? I think, here in Greece at least, it's far more likely people to be against you if you are a fascist. And I dont think Greece is much of a progressive country.🤷

And besides all that, I think it's kinda easy to get a rough idea of people's beliefs anyways.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago

I'm deep in Trump country. I wouldn't even feel safe putting a Republicans Against Trump sign outside my house.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Does it apply to people online?

Does it apply to people on a television screen?

Does it apply to videos of people in the past, who have since changed their beliefs?

What do I see if someone has convinced they are somebody else? Whose beliefs do I see?

I kind of understand the premise ("what happens if we can't hide our beliefs anymore") but the details are too important to gloss over

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Only applies to people physically within 1KM, including people above you on a plane (although IDK who flies that low), and also people below you in caves or tunnels. 1KM is any direction above below or diagonal. People who suffer from amnesia or schizophenia or any condition where they don't know who they are anymore, would probably have their info glitching out on the HUD display. And holographic projections like in star wars are still not considered physical presence

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago (5 children)

as an anarchist I wouldn't do well anywhere

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[–] toomanypancakes 26 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I'm living on the outskirts of a rural town. People have trump flags flying on my street. I'd be totally fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Not fucked at all. I agree with my beliefs, and I'm tired of being misunderstood. Having them be visible would be vindicating. I just want to be friends with everyone at the end of the day.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago

A citizen of the world; A left leaning, anarcho syndicalist and when I’m feeling moderate, a democratic socialist. People would think the same thing they already think about me: that I’m a person that is fed up with fascist boot lickers on both “sides” of the rapidly rightward shifting Overton window.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People have signs on their front lawn showing who they support. In a way, your hypothetical has been happening for decades. A lot of people don't hide who they vote for.

[–] roofuskit 5 points 2 days ago

I think you'll find many people who are largely outnumbered in their area tend to opt out of signs.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I'm fine. I live in Canada, and I'm not a fascist, Nazi, (colour) supremacist, or anything.

I just lean to the left and appreciate public/social services; which is slightly "communist" but not "authoritarian Nazi" Communist. No no, you should be free to live how you want, work in whatever field you want, eat the food you like, love who you wanna love, and live how and where you want to live. I'm just in favor of things like, not bankrupting someone because they got pneumonia and had to go to the hospital for a day; also fire departments, schools, employment insurance (social/government), streets and roads, parks, sidewalks, community centers.... You know, stuff that everyone owns, but nobody "owns"? Stuff we all can use without having to pay for it.

I'm also in favor of UBI, but I realize that UBI may not happen anytime soon, maybe not in my lifetime. I hope it happens eventually (or at do away with fiat currency), for the good of the people, but I recognize the fight is difficult to win.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

If everyone's political beliefs were something you could see, I actually think it would create more peace. How many people go along with a more extreme take only because they are afraid to be ostracized from their community? Odds are folks would look around and see that the world is more shades of gray than what social media tries to mold us into.

I had someone tell me I was brainwashed because I have a degree in political science. I was taken aback, but then decided to ask myself if I was. I mean, what's the difference between being educated and being brainwashed? Is it the conclusion that you come to? Is it some physically measurable thing?

Some good questions to ask is "is the information I'm getting geared to make me feel a certain way or to inform me about something?" "Am I learning in a setting where I am afraid that to have a dissenting opinion would get me kicked out of my community?" "Are certain ideas immediately ruled out as false without further discussion?"

At least in my degree, I felt that there were a plethora of opinions in my classroom discussions, and when we approached different lenses, we made sure to have a thorough understanding of them, as best we could. I can think of only one philosophy that an international relations teacher ruled off outright, and that was "ancient hatreds theory". Even then we spent several classes taking it apart and why it is a poor tool to view conflicts.

That said, I would say I was brainwashed after college when I spent more time on Facebook, reddit, and Instagram. With the perpetual rage machine at my fingertips, I was afraid that if I disagreed I would be flamed and cancelled from groups that I loved. I am very wary of getting information from the socials since things are so over simplified and there is little to no welcomed critical discussion. It's just a yelling pit with people further entrenched in their beliefs.

[–] Soulcreator 1 points 2 days ago

Well considering politics isn't something I've spent a lot of my time thinking about, and I suspect my ideas are somewhat under developed. Because of which I'd love to take a look at that scoreboard and see what it says about me. Because I have no clue what I truly believe anymore.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hmm. You remember how congress used to round up suspected communists?

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[–] Red_October 2 points 3 days ago

I'm homeless and unemployed by the end of the day and have to flee the state. Both my landlord and general manager are hardcore MAGAts, and I live in a small, remote town in a very red state. It would genuinely not be safe for my politics to be known.

[–] Maggoty 2 points 3 days ago

I'm pretty fucked. First of all it's going to be several paragraphs because I don't neatly fit an ideology and then there's something to piss off every group.

[–] zxqwas 5 points 3 days ago

Not very. Most people around here are able to coexist despite having different views.

[–] bcgm3 4 points 3 days ago

Florida here. Had a Bernie bumper sticker from the early days of his campaign til the end of Trump's admin. Only ever incited two interactions, both were physical threats.

So, it probably wouldn't go well.

[–] elephantium 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Idk, how far is that in "freedom units"? Probably fine, the bigots are too far away to get mad at me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

About 11 football fields.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

People will squint at me trying to figure me out a lot. My political beliefs are all over the place. My goal is clear (an egalitarian society that rewards hard work, but ensures a comfortable life for everyone, globally).
But I have absolutely no idea what policies would achieve that.
I'm just sure as shit neither Capitalism nor a state-controlled economy would. Probably leaning towards Anarchism.

If authorities could see my beliefs, they could lock me up, cause they're actually illegal.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 days ago

I can't drive anywhere. There are way too many people in a 1km radius too see past the cloud of floating tags. I just really hope closing my eyes turns the effect off so I can try to get some sleep.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm already pretty loud about my political views. At worst, I would probably get pretty irate seeing just how many fascists exist around me, tho.

[–] pleasejustdie 3 points 3 days ago

I'll be fine, I don't lie about my beliefs, and it's pretty 50 50 here. I'm pretty sure I have some family members that would be sweating about it though.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 3 days ago

Every little detail would probably cause some issues. Someone walking around here “advertising” racism would have some real problems as where I live is very mixed. There are probably a lot of people riding the edge of violence for a multitude of reasons, assumed rage over politics-based slights absolutely being one of them. I don’t think I’d have too many personal problems, considering my “hard-left” leanings revolve around trying to make lives better for everyone.

Might help if you got within a km of a politician, you could tell pretty quick how full of shit they were. There’d be some serious upheaval, I think.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Not very. I'm pretty mild in my ideologies as far as scandinavia goes. Once traveling to the US again my presence would probably make Joseph McCarthy rise from his grave, though.

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