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Unsurprisingly, he and his family were doxed by angry traders.

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[–] Furbag 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

What I've learned from this article is that I should be creating memecoins because people are very gullible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I've been considering it tbh... And I know what my target audience would be even. I just don't know if I want to actually go through with it + if I do, I have to buy Monero with it or something so I could launder it, then somehow explain to the tax authority that I've suddenly got a bunch of crypto I'm selling... Though the last part might not be too bad, as long as I do TELL them that I'm selling it and want to pay taxes on it.

[–] Furbag 1 points 3 days ago

Yeah, the tax man doesn't care how you got it, just that they get their cut. Just don't be stupid and not declare that income... They will know.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago

And then internet trolls briefly pumped the coin again so the kid will always feel like he missed out on $3M.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"My shitty attempt at being a venture capitalist didn't pan out and I'm angry at the guy who took advantage of my desire for a get rich quick scheme"

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago (3 children)

how can you be a fan of "Hawk Tuah"? It's the unfunniest meme like ever

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

It was a funny thing for a spontaneous drunk girl to joke about with her friends on a night out.

It should have stayed there, it's so overplayed now.

[–] capital 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I think it was funny but that’s completely irrelevant.

Who the fuck forks over any money, much less $50k for… what? What does this coin do that any of the thousands of others don’t? Because someone said a funny thing? …. What??

I have zero sympathy for these dipshits. We’re going to have a lot more of this content in the US over the next 4 years.

[–] Agent641 2 points 3 days ago

I think the video and meme itself were dumb but the fact she ran with it and built a memepire from it and is raking it in from gullible simps is hilarious

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"my crypto representative... @"

[–] Agent641 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dudes about to lose his last $2k to a crypto scam "advocate"

[–] Makhno 1 points 3 days ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

Feels too good to be true

[–] CosmoNova 102 points 5 days ago (7 children)
[–] [email protected] 104 points 5 days ago (10 children)

IDK what you want to call it.

It's silly to get mad at the kid for selling a shitty meme coin people were willing to pay for when that's the whole reason they exist.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 5 days ago

enough people automatically buy into every coin created, a couple bucks here, a couple bucks there, hoping one will take off, that's where this 50k bump earnings, and the millions in valuation comes from. kid invested $300 buying a stake in his own coin, he could've lost it. he didn't.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah. Everyone who got mad at him is basically like, 'Hey! Fuck you, asshole, for selling before I got a chance to sell! I wanted to do that, but you did it before I could do it! No fair!'

Also: the coins are now with far more than when he sold. So strangely, the folks who got rug pulled ended up with an actually valuable coin and an opportunity to sell at a high price. Which makes zero sense to me. But they apparently have no reason to complain. It worked out great for everyone, somehow.

Very stupid.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Idiots participate in Bigger Idiot scheme, upset to find out they're the Bigger Idiot.

[–] x00z 30 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Better words to use here:

  • swindles
  • defrauds
  • pockets
  • scams
[–] [email protected] 50 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

It's none of those.

There is not, and never was, any reasonable belief or expectation that there was any path to resembling an actual currency. The entire market is shitty gambling hoping you're the one who times their sale correctly.

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (9 children)

Isn't this the basis of how all cryptocurrency work?

When you think about it .... isn't this also how all money works?

[–] Valmond 16 points 4 days ago

Ya, it's all about trust.

I trust the EU to manage the Euro, a meme managing a shitcoin not so much 😋

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Money is backed by a state with the (legitimate) monopoly on the use of force. Is has a worth because you must pay your taxes in it or else.

As such, money coined by a state has an inherit value as long as the state is stable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

And said state has both an interest in the stability of the currency as well as tools to influence it that are not available to everyone.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (21 children)

That’s not how money works. Fiat currency is just IOU’s, literally, which are discharged when the promissory note returns to its originator (in the case of dollars, the US treasury). Check out Debt the First 5000 Years for an anthropological look at the origins of money.

Whereas I would prefer to live in a moneyless (i.e., debtless) post-scarcity anarchist society, which is how small tribes and communities were organized for tens of thousands of years before the rise of nations, fiat currencies are used to maintain the modern (unimaginably huge) marketplace, whose ostensible purpose is to allocate scarce resources.

  1. Personal debt is risky. If I issue an IOU, I might die before I can fulfill that promise. Governments are more permanent, which removes the speculative aspect of currency (at least for most purposes, though Forex trading is a thing).
  2. A central bank can balance inflation and employment numbers to ameliorate the natural volatility of the market (with good regulation lol).
  3. Fiat currency can be synchronized with economic productivity, avoiding the deflationary pressure that is anathema to any currency.

Dollars represent faith in the power of the US government to extract taxes from its population. Crypto represents nothing. It stands for nothing. “Coins” come and go, and if you’re the last one standing in the zero-sum game of musical chairs, you lose your savings. For that to happen with dollars, the US government would have to implode, which is unlikely.

Crypto is, quite possibly, the purest form of speculative trading (gambling) we have ever concocted. The only reason I don’t think it should be illegal is that I have no interest in saving people from their own cupidity and greed.

[–] triptrapper 3 points 3 days ago

Graeber's book (Debt: The First 5000 Years) is so, so good.

[–] surewhynotlem 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

For a large portion of time in those small anarchist communities, they'd raid and kill each other.

How would we prevent that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You’re absolutely right, and I have no idea. Maybe wait another 100,000 years for the 30% of humanity that lacks abstract moral reasoning to exit the gene pool.

[–] surewhynotlem 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm convinced the reason we have so much government is to control that portion. And it's not even doing that good of a job.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

technically yes, difference is one is backed by a nation state, the other is backed by a teenager...

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I have to use USD to pay my taxes, and if I don't pay my taxes i go to jail. Cryptocurrencies aren't used for anything other than financial speculation

[–] macarthur_park 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Cryptocurrencies aren't used for anything other than financial speculation

Typical anti-blockchain crypto bashing.

Cryptocurrencies have plenty of uses besides speculation. For example, buying drugs and a plethora of scams.

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[–] a4ng3l 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

But some currencies are backed by countries with armies and such deterrents. Not so many countries currently backing crypto I guess.

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[–] Rooty 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Cryptobros and day traders are indistinguishable from compulsive gamblers

[–] answersplease77 4 points 3 days ago

The Hawk Tuah coin scammed millions to their insiders, and they were rudely unapologetic about it afterward. They lied about everything they promised their "fans". I cant believe such theft is not illegal

[–] DerArzt 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

For the people in the article complaining:

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Don't invest in meme coins.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Good for him

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

"Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?"

[–] ikidd 23 points 5 days ago

This is done thousands of times a day on Pumpfun, not sure why this one merits mention except that there was a backlash.

See Darknet Diaries: Stacc Attack episode for an interesting look at meme coin jackassery.

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