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Florida State Senator Ileana Garcia has introduced legislation to prohibit "weather modification" activities in the state.

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[–] inclementimmigrant 26 points 6 hours ago

God the American public is so stupid.

[–] ATDA 16 points 7 hours ago

Republicans: chemtrails bad

Unless it's just air, land, or sea pollution from our chronies.

God they're insufferable.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 hours ago

Their state might sink under the ocean, but at least the sky will be free of linear water vapor. Freedom!

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] enbyecho 2 points 4 hours ago

Kids, don't be morons.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 17 points 10 hours ago

Ok. Then they can stop all the measures taken to protect citrus from freezing. That’s weather modification.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 hours ago

Honestly, this is a good thing. Red states should all pass ridiculous laws like this. Get thing awful bill passed, and then go to Florida and call 911 on every vapor trail or especially long cloud you see.

[–] werefreeatlast 7 points 10 hours ago

The Disney spray nozzles during Summer are weather modifications! Get them!

[–] Etterra 8 points 10 hours ago

Oh boy, political theater. Assuming it's not their actual crackpot belief. Given the Orange Idiot's cabinet picks though, I wouldn't bet in that assumption being accurate.

[–] [email protected] 178 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Let them pass it, take it to the state courts and then claim (correctly with mountains of scientific evidence) that any combustion of fossil fuels counts as "weather modification"

[–] [email protected] 82 points 20 hours ago (8 children)

It sounds like they've thought of that:

The "Weather Modification Activities" bill sets out that "the injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within the borders of this state for the express purpose of affecting the temperature, the weather, or the intensity of sunlight is prohibited."

So it allows releasing pollution that causes climate change since it is a side effect of other things (transport, power generation, etc.), but forbids intentionally trying to mitigate climate change by releasing anything into the air. Sounds about right for Florida politics.

That said, there is a real uncertainty about the side effects of may experimental geoengineering techniques, so some regulation is probably in order. Preferable not from Republicans for ignorant or bad faith reasons though.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Does this make outdoor misters illegal? Not sure how Disney World lines would be bearable in the summer without those misters cooling things down. But maybe they don't consider water a chemical?

[–] Modern_medicine_isnt 4 points 7 hours ago

Nah, cause the intent is to make more money. Just happens to be by making customers more comfortable, which also just happens to be by adding moisture to the air. See, it's a law designed to do nothing. Florida tax dollars hard at work.

[–] SendMePhotos 7 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

That's kind of dumb, no? Because what if we need weather control to reduce the fucking temperature?!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 hours ago

If they voted to be cook, cook em.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

We won't, we have AC /s

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 17 hours ago

Lmao, enjoy dealing with all the nuts trying to report “chemtrails” now.

Hell, maybe giving them a reason to flood legal channels is the goal and not the side effect.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Lol, they're literally the state that needs weather modification the most. Just ask the remaining home insurers.

This is hilarious.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 6 points 11 hours ago

Moron signaling

[–] jordanlund 10 points 15 hours ago

So what about when Florida crops are starved for rain?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding

[–] EndOfLine 28 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

"the injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of a chemical, a chemical compound, a substance, or an apparatus into the atmosphere within the borders of this state for the express purpose of affecting the temperature, the weather, or the intensity of sunlight is prohibited."

🤔 a substance or device released into atmosphere for the express purpose of affecting the temperature or sunlight intensity

Are they trying to ban misters, solar shades, and umbrellas?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry outdoor restaurants, gonna need you to remove the umbrellas from your tables. They're classified as an apparatus used for the express purpose of reducing the intensity of sunlight.

[–] Kbobabob 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Uh, how does that qualify as "released into the atmosphere"

I mean during a tornado it could potentially be within violation but at that point there's probably bigger issues.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The atmosphere starts where the ground ends.

[–] Kbobabob 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I guess that means your head is in the clouds.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't put it past our court's ability to interpret it that way.

[–] Kbobabob 1 points 5 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago

They are going to ban any reference to a round earth next

[–] somethingsnappy 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Don't forget spray sunscreen, and possibly minorities having sex?

[–] [email protected] 30 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

somehow, they will definitely have a loophole for private jets …

[–] [email protected] 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

If you have a private jet then you will probably just pay the fine and consider it a parking fee.

[–] Kbobabob 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Reminds me of an actor/comedian that claimed to have ran a stop sign in front of a cop during a torrential downpour. When the cop is standing outside the car in the downpour and asked if the driver knew why he was pulled over the driver replied, "yeah, do you know why I ran the stop sign?"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Wait until airlines get fined for "chem trails"?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Or all the airlines pull out of Florida. (I realize that will not, but a boy can dream)

[–] WindyRebel 3 points 11 hours ago

Oh they could and the old people there would suddenly be on Florida’s ass about this stupid law and get it changed very very quickly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago

And also the Florida cruise industry collapses.

I fully support this bill. In our laboratory of democracy I think states should have the right to idiocy themselves into economic irrelevance.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek 6 points 19 hours ago

Eh, it's fairly unlikely but not that far fetched. A lot of insurance companies have pulled out of Florida now. So why not airlines if they start getting fined for bullshit reasons.

[–] Ensign_Crab 4 points 17 hours ago

Rockets also leave contrails.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

The "chemtrails" will continue, because they're a natural side effect of airliner travel in certain conditions.

Dumb Floridians will call authorities.

What will the state do? Tell the airlines they are liable for something they aren't doing?

The farce has to end somewhere.

Edit: let's just hope it ends before hillbillies feel justified for shooting at passenger aircraft.

[–] mipadaitu 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I mean... Contrails are bad for the climate and should be avoided, and it wouldn't cost that much more.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/03/12/1089620/how-rerouting-planes-to-produce-fewer-contrails-could-help-cool-the-planet/

Tho we all know that they accidentally stumbled into maybe a good idea.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

This cirrus-forming phenomenon could account for around 35% of aviation’s total contribution to climate change—or about 1% to 2% of overall global warming, according to some estimates.

I had absolutely no clue that they had an impact, much less such a significant one. Thanks for sharing!

Also interesting:

A small fraction of overall flights, between 2% and 10%, create about 80% of the contrails

[–] WrenFeathers 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve a feeling that the price of tinfoil hats is going to be increasing soon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Unfortunately tinfoil hats could be classified as an apparatus that reduces the intensity of sunlight, so those are gonna have to go as well.

[–] hOrni 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So when people say, the democrats do nothing, do they mean in comparison to bills like this? I mean, technically You're right, but... dear god.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Might as well ban ghosts

🙄

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