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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] [email protected] 176 points 4 days ago (11 children)

Hey, anybody remember 12ish years ago when Alex Jones' worst fear was that Obama was going to use executive power to order the military to be deployed on American soil, violating Posse Comitatus, to massively round up and inter a bunch of Americans in FEMA reducation / death camps?

Anyone?

No one?

Whoo boy, growing up in a fundamentalist Christian household where I was the only one to go to college and everyone else became a Q Anon zombie sure was fuuuunnnnn!

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 32 points 3 days ago

With conservatives every accusation is just projection

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wrong community. This dystopia is about get real interesting, real fast 😬

[–] Famko 10 points 3 days ago

I would've rather had it not be a dystopia, but silver lining and all that.

[–] Duamerthrax 21 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Gee, I wonder what the solution will be if other countries wont take our undesirables.

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[–] Treczoks 10 points 2 days ago

To declare a "National Emergency", he probably needs a cause. How does American law deal with those "National Emergency" situations? Does he need some proof? Does he need confirmation from somewhere?

[–] Suavevillain 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can't beat Trump's brand of fascism with spineless morally flexible subservient people. People are going to have to fight back do what they can. Dems are already rolling over in advance and some are going to fight with what resources they have. It is going to be rough.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago

The dems are the wimpy kids who internalized being nice to their bullies will somehow earn them respect and show they are the better people. In reality their abusers only hold them in even more contempt and spit at them at every turn.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] VerbFlow 1 points 1 day ago

I'd say that the Overton Window is certainly weaponized by the right-wing.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 4 days ago (14 children)

When again are americans using their right to bear arms to protect themselves against an authoritarian government? If you dont do it now never again use this argument for the second amendment.

[–] cultsuperstar 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A lot of Americans don't feel this is authoritarian and actually welcome it. They would love to have Trump as president for life.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If any of us actually find ourselves in that situation, it would be unwise to post about it on the internet, even if someone is calling you a phoney.

Every post we make here is getting recorded by the NSA.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (14 children)
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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Don’t forget to put all the books in a pile and set fire to them. And smash their shop windows.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago

Please deport me harder orange man.

[–] WrenFeathers 69 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

Undocumented Immigrants Contribute Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes a Year

If he actually succeeds in doing this, guess who’s going to be made to fill in that hole.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you lived in the 80's, you know where you're going with this.

Prisons. Good old indentured servitude.

Get ready for more jaywalking arrests.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is step one to collapsing Social Security and Medicare.

Knee cap all the funding from folks who never collect on it, then say, see? It’s collapsing earlier than we thought.

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[–] Goodmorningsunshine 16 points 3 days ago

Obviously the answer is to tax billionaires, but that's never going to happen.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 days ago

Nice, by the book. The fascist admin guide as seen in most of Europe, recently

[–] GraniteM 110 points 4 days ago (22 children)

Drive through rural America and see how many underpopulated small towns there are. Shuttered businesses for lack of customers. Abandoned buildings. These places need people.

[–] Ragdoll_X 58 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

It's kind of wild to me how many really small towns there are in the US. About 32% of towns in the U.S. have less than 500 residents.

For comparison, here in Brazil I lived most of my life in a town with ~35K residents and it was already considered a small rural town. Some of my family lives in a neighboring town with ~11K residents, and even in my hometown people joke about how small it is, and that there's basically nothing going on there. 1288 of towns in Brazil have less than 5K residents, or about 23.1%, and there are no towns with less than 500 residents. Meanwhile in the US 76% of towns have less than 5K residents.

Again, it's just kind of wild to me. I remember playing (reading?) the Echo VN and thinking "Man, a dying town with only 50 people? That doesn't sound realistic," but apparently that's way more common than I thought.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce 46 points 4 days ago (8 children)

My slightly educated guess would be that's a consequence of America's race westward in the 1800's, only stopping long enough to annihilate the indigenous population and set up a rest stop for the next batch.

[–] Podunk 34 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Railroads played big role. Trains needed more water or coal to run the engine. So every 15 to 20 miles or so, depending on terrain, a water depot was erected, and there a new town popped up. Some survived. Some didnt. Few are thriving. Just pull up a map and follow a rail line in the great plains region of the usa. Then just measure it out. Its impossible to miss once you notice it.

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[–] Sanctus 94 points 4 days ago (24 children)

We tried this before and it sucked then, too.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (36 children)

How are people going to be selected for deportation? This feels eerily like what Hitler started doing with Jews.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, we definitely need less people in this country. I’m sure it’ll help fill all the job vacancies and increase productivity and GDP.

I will make sure to bring this up when any republicans complain that are so many vacancies because no one wants to work anymore.

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[–] inv3r510n 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

He’s not going to succeed at his goals unless he essentially suspends the constitution. Which I wouldn’t put past him necessarily but for now these headlines are pretty sensational.

Everybody is protected by the fifth amendment regardless of citizenship status or if they are here “legally” or not. We’re all entitled to due process and freedom from unreasonable search and seizure so long as we’re standing on American soil. Running after families just minding their business and demanding papers please is far fetched. Going after already established criminals however is a lot easier and low hanging fruit. And I’m not talking about people who’s only crime is being here illegally, I’m talking about people who are that + another crime. And sorry but I don’t feel sympathy for those people who make life harder for everyone else…

Even if they do go after everyone they don’t have the infrastructure in place to process people. The highest deportations happened under Obama (take that, hysterical pissing in their pants liberals) at 230k a year and the system was barely functioning and is further backlogged now than ever. How the fuck is trump gonna manage to deport a million a year?

He’s full of hot air. Hell deport criminals and claim a win.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would be honestly less concerned if I thought the administration would be successful in deporting people. I think you're relying heavily on "due process" here, when the reality is they can just accuse you of a crime, deny you bail, and then hold you pretty much indefinitely. You let the ones who can get lawyers out and you've pretty effectively filtered the population for wealth.

The Nazi death camps started as temporary internment camps with the intent to deport Jews eventually.

Then they just ended up with a whole bunch of people in camps with nowhere to send them and were like, "well, we might as well get some work out of some and kill the rest" and it sort of escalated from there.

Which with their "camps for the mentally ill, homeless, and drug addicted" and "deportation emergency" sounds alarmingly similar.

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