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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) by NegativeLookBehind to c/technology
 

That’s all.

EDIT: Thank you all for detailing your experience with, and hatred for, this miserable product. Your display of solidarity is inspiring. Now, say it with me:

Fuck Microsoft

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 37 minutes ago

i just hate everything about micro$oft nowadays to be honest.. and i use and always will use linux mainly aswell cause of my hatred for windows in general

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Of all the Microsoft products I’m forced to use for work, teams is by far the best. It still sucks. Fuck Microsoft. Fuck monopolies.

[–] Shardikprime 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I mean , works for me. You know what is complete bullshit?

SKYPE. Using that in a work environment is a nightmare

[–] NiHaDuncan 2 points 1 hour ago

Not to mention the fact that you can force single-factor authentication using Skype for business despite requiring MFA across the board. Just had to patch that hole recently.

[–] thedeadwalking4242 12 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I’m so tired of web engine based apps

[–] hahattpro 1 points 42 minutes ago

So does discord

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Why? At least I don't have to download and install gigabytes of files for something I might only use once?

[–] demizerone 10 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

My company has teams and slack and IT wants to switch to all teams. The thread where they announced this had to be locked. :D I don't know how a trillion dollar company can't get this right. Worst yet the bundle that shit with everything and overworked IT depts pick it by default.

[–] squirrelwithnut 2 points 3 hours ago
[–] HexesofVexes 16 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I mean, with winter coming in, and universities not bothering to heat the building, teams turning my potato work laptop into a furnace is the only thing keeping us warm this winter...

Serious question - is their long term strategy bad optimisation to sell hardware? Do they have shares in intel or something?!?

[–] omarfw 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity."

Mega corporations that only hire contract workers with no morale or investment in the long term success of the company (because the majority of their efforts are purely to appear shareholders) are not equipped with the means to put out decent products.

Passion, dedication, investment in workers, and long term talent are what create remarkable pieces of software. Microsoft has none of this because these things are incompatible with the directives of infinite growth shareholder appeasement. Want extra time for QA? nope, that would reduce profits. Want to pay higher salaries to attract better talent? Nope, that would reduce profits. Want to adequately reward employees in ways they actually connect with like raises and bonuses? Nope, that would cut into the boss' annual bonus and he needs his new vacation home more than we need to afford rent.

There is an optimal level of profit chasing and company size within which excellent software can be produced, and Microsoft exceeded those thresholds years ago. There is also an optimal phase of capitalism that is conducive to quality innovation and development, and we're well past it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

web version is not as bad as the official client tbf

( even on Windows i was using sth called teams-for-linux (despite the name its actually cross platform) which is an Electron wrapper around ms teams, bc the official client was crashing/freezing the windows audio service somehow)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago

Use the browser version in Edge. That and outlook are the only two things I'm using that browser for, and it works great. The standalone software is an utter disaster.

[–] autonomoususer 8 points 5 hours ago

lmao, based. Discord too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Outlook 2010 is better than this new office 365 shit too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 36 minutes ago

what about libreoffice? i did hear that's a good alternative to ms office but i wasn't sure if i was wrong but yeah i thought it would be alright to mention that here since you mentioned ms office

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

What is crazy is that Mac version is more stable than windows in my experience. Still shit, though

[–] portuga 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I have an office account for work. I don’t happen upon the troubles people report here. I couldn’t leave MS as I basically use all their stuff for work (and so do the several other hundreds of employees here). But teams does work well: texting, videocalls with 100s of participants, recording meetings, file repositories

I use teams every day. My only gripe recently is the messages like “look the wonderful things we did to improve it” that I didn’t need and will probably never use, but I press the little X don’t know don’t care

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

I feel similarly. I work in an office that's heavily invested in Microsoft for everything and when you use Microsoft everything Teams fits in really nicely with great outlook integration, Microsoft Loop integration, etc. and the experience on Teams is fine

[–] kalpol 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Also the surveys after eveey call. Drives me crazy. And the weird file editor, never edit PowerPoint slides in Teams.

And the way it absolutely freaks out when the computer is in standby.

[–] steeznson 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You put more effort into this post than M$ did to their product

[–] NegativeLookBehind 3 points 8 hours ago

Thanks, your bill is in the mail.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I love how they rolled out the new upgraded Teams and it's still awful!

[–] Akr164 2 points 8 hours ago
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Based and tech pilled

[–] dog_ 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] NegativeLookBehind 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] dog_ 1 points 3 hours ago

I forgot my username was that ngl. Yes, I, the Linux user broke Microsoft teams.

[–] mlg 40 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (7 children)
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[–] AustralianSimon 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

It's the worst and has been running like total crap for years. Even Skype for business worked better. Luckily it is better than Cisco Jabber or Webex.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah I'm going to go ahead and record this meeting. Please speak up if you object. Because we've provided so much psychological safety that there will surely be no judgement or fear of reprisal for those with any hesitation to swim in line with the corporate current. We're also going to share files in this chat that you'll have to catalogue and remember - so when someone refers to a nondescript file shared 3 weeks ago you'll be forced to know exactly which chat and file you're referring to. Also, put yourself on video. We appreciate face to face communication.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 hours ago

That's not really Teams fault though. Sounds more like a team issue than a Teams issue.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Since I have not seen anyone mention this problem yet: Teams doesn't let you mute other people in a call for yourself. Obviously also no volume control per person. Imagine sitting next to your coworker in a teams meeting and having to deal with hearing them twice with like 20 ms delay. Awful.

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