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Lemmy is a worse platform for women than Reddit was EDIT this link is an OLD POST that contains my thesis on the state of lemmy and is not the context of the much more recent comment in the screenshot. sorry for any confusion caused by this juxtaposition, my main goal with having this linked is to expose how nothing has improved

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[–] [email protected] 155 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, and since the exact people your post is about simply can't help themselves and are already pouring in to mansplain and make excuses for themselves, the obligatory:

the comments on any article about feminism justify feminism

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 month ago (6 children)

I post some feminist shit, or at least critiques of men, and the comments are as expected.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Every.

Fucking.

Time.

And if I know the post you mean, it reminds me a lot of that gillette ad from a couple of years back, basically telling men they can do better, for each other if nothing else, and they came out in droves to shout that actually, they really fucking can't.

Patriarchy and the privilege it grants are one hell of a drug..

[–] MeaanBeaan 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I cannot imagine being so insecure with your manness that you feel the need to protest a razor commercial asking you to be a better dude.

I've been afflicted with Manhood my whole life. And razor ads asking me to be better doesn't threaten me. In fact, they're right, I can be a better man. I should go do the dishes; just after I feel better. This debilitating minor cold is getting me real down.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I remember that commercial.

and they came out in droves to shout that actually, they really fucking can't.

Lmao. Gotta keep that bar low so people don't expect anything from us. It's surprisingly easy being a shitbag of a human; all you need is a lack of conscience

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It’s surprisingly easy being a shitbag of a human; all you need is a lack of conscience

And it's surprisingly easy not to be, too - learn that sometimes it's ok, if not preferable, to shut the fuck up and listen to people taking bout their experience, without making it about you (generic you, obviously not you, Shovel). But when the world and society generally cater to you, and you've been socialised with those levels of entitlement, that thought never even crosses their minds..

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Not all men, but definitely this fucking guy," moment

[–] TotallynotJessica 91 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

In keeping with the theme of OP - a few weeks ago, on a post about that horrific case in France where the man got dozens of strangers to rape his wife, a good 70% of replies were some variation on "not all men", and I posted this meme in reply to one of them, and my reply got removed for breaking the rules (not being civil!), but not a single one of theirs was. This was on one of the main news communities on this site. I blocked it after that, and all the other communities the mods mod. Fuck that noise.

[–] TotallynotJessica 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's fucking awful. I feel guilty for not pushing back harder when the "not all men" crowd shows up, especially in the community I mod. I've been giving them too much benefit of the doubt in an attempt to not ruin the vibes. I won't make that mistake again.

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[–] brucethemoose 65 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Ugh.

I just wish misogynistic comments/voice logs could be taped to abusers' foreheads.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

OOP was downvoted for a non-sequitur on top of a strawman.

When their original argument was refuted they posted what OP posted above as if it was a relevant comeback.

OP is a malignant poster leaving out context.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

~~link, please?~~ Edit: found it.

Seems like pretty typical self-centred reply-guy behaviour, then all the men downvoting got annoyed because the person fighting on behalf of women in this interaction refused to entertain the implication that men are owed sex by women

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[–] DragonsInARoom 53 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

the sick part is there isn’t even profit to be had here on lemmy :( so it’s all for nothing and i guess since fedi is modeled after for-profit platforms the same patterns play out

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is that getting downvoted? What community is that? Dumb as fuck.

[–] Duamerthrax 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

I'm suspicious. I'd like to know other comments that person has made. They might be a troll and that comment has nothing to do with the topic it's in.

Also, good work Google AI. /s

edit: yeah, I can't find the source of that comment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You should be ashamed of that infinite tabs bruh

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

Those are emotional support tabs, I need them. Don't dare to touch them!

[–] Duamerthrax 6 points 1 month ago
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Seeing the state if discourse in the B4 movement threads makes it so obvious that the present community on lemmy is wildly sexist and misogynistic. Like how egotistical and selfish do you have to be to see a movement that is a rational response to women having their bodily autonomy taken away from them in real time, and interpret that situation in a way where you perceive it as a threat to your personal chances of getting laid?

You could be seeing this movement and choosing to recognize that it is coming from a place of justified fear, anger, and suffering of women all over the country, and decide, "This situation is wrong, we need to fight this." It's not hard. Just be an ally.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

chad ✅: wow this is insane behavior to see as a man but i understand that women would not be doing this unless the situation was really dire. i am open to listening first and will keep my knee jerk judgements private at least at first.

virgin ❌: wow this is insane behavior to see as a man, and this kind of shit is literally why you women experience sexism in the first place. actions (self preservation and solidarity) have consequences (sexism and radicalization). don’t mind me as i fill this entire thread about women asking to be heard with my hot takes on the situation 🤓☝️

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

No, seriously, that movement is not justified at all. It's full of transphobia, homophobia, and on top of all this racism expected from Korea of course. They harassed trans people going to women's university, death threat included of course, and also harasses any trans individuals appearing on timeline via QRT/Reply/etc. You should think about this when you talk about that movement.

Some good reads (though on twitter sadly): https://x.com/codud066/status/1855670602985873464 https://x.com/muntamor/status/1855683991262908714

EDIT: The last part was a bit rude, so toned it down a bit. Anyways, as trans individual living in Korea unfortunately, I do feel very unsafe (and had a panic attack) by those kinds of people.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

i totally hear your concerns, it’s sort of a weird situation because the name is being adopted from an entirely different cultural context by people who might have just heard about it this week

i will say that all the genuine circles i have seen expressing interest in 4b have done their research and are outspoken about rejecting transphobia and only retaining the good parts in their practice, so that’s heartening :)

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So are bears back on the menu?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

They never went away according to my Grindr feed.

[–] TotallynotJessica 21 points 1 month ago

Putting the Nazi in Grammar Nazi?

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are too many people on the Internet (and likely also generally the world) who don't know how successful sex strikes have historically been, and it shows.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (9 children)

i straight up blocked lemmy.world after the “strange man or a bear” thing blew up, and i realized LITERALLY THE ONLY PEOPLE arguing in favor of the man were all coincidentally on that instance.

honestly very incel-y

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

i mean tbf, speaking as someone that was very active throughout that, the reason for this may be that .world was (maybe still is) drastically overpopulated and undermoderated. one off offenses got knocked down but without a concerted effort repeat offenders that flew under the radar just enough times got a freebee to complain about getting radicalized another day.

can’t believe i’m defending .world mods who banned me for asking them to deescalate rather than amplify tos violating content lmao. no defense for the incels tho 😤😤

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