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[–] scarabic 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

A boy at my kids preschool wanted to be Anna from Frozen. His parents dressed him as Anna. I don’t think they went out of their way to feminize him - he had no wig or makeup, for example. But he was in a dress, because that’s what Anna wears. Was he a “male version of Anna?” No. Was he going as a female? No. He was just the character. Similarly, if a little girl puts on an iron man suit, is she a “female iron man” or some kind of “Iron Woman?” No.

So when you say “a male version of a character” I hear that you are not just going as a character who happens to be the other gender but you are putting a specific twist on that character. There’s nothing wrong with that necessarily. But it can definitely go wrong depending on the character and how you handle it. We’d just need more information. It’s one of those things that doesn’t have bright line rules. Like all issues of content offensiveness.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

What's the costume? I'll tell you real quick if it's offensive. Go for it.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s called gender-bending, at least in my local cosplay groups. It’s done frequently and usually turns out great because of the passion and care put into it. Go for it!

[–] ObsidianZed 18 points 4 days ago

I've also heard it referred to as cross-play, though without the contact of cosplay, can be somewhat confusing.

[–] scarabic 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This is a subtle question, so feel free to answer “none of the above.”

But in your circles, is this gender bending explicit, as in “I’m a female Wolverine” or is it just someone who’s female going as Wolverine? And in the latter case, I don’t mean that she’s pretending to be a man, just that she’s not changing the character, simply embodying it as, herself, a woman.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago

It’s just about playing the character as the persons’ own gender identity. Most common, of course, being video game characters as opposite genders. So like, lady master chief or what if zelda was a man, etc. But I’ve seen an androgynous/enby kratos that was super well done! Gender-bent / gender-bending is just the term that has stuck for that.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 days ago

Rule of thumb:

  • are you making fun or otherwise mocking someone?
  • are you doing it for any "bad reason" whatsoever?
  • are you doing something that is/was primarily done by others for "bad reasons", historically?
  • are you doing something that other groups started doing as a replacement for something else that they were not allowed to (that you are)?

I'm half asleep so I may have forgotten something but if I didn't, then answering No to all of those should be the minimum thing you do.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

With all the Bowsettes last year, I'm tempted to say no in the name of equality.

[–] Feathercrown 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Oh god was that only last year??

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, it was ~~5 years ago~~ last week, actually.

[–] Feathercrown 1 points 2 days ago

Wow Covid really messed with our perception of time huh /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago

Not sure honestly. It may have been the year before. Or even earlier. Or maybe I'm just slow at noticing popular media trends. As you can see, I'm doing great at growing old.

[–] GraniteM 5 points 3 days ago

I'm just having a hard time imagining a scenario in which it would be offensive...

Plenty where it would be a little confusing. Sandra Dude O'Connor, or Susan Bro Anthony would take some explaining, at the least.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I have a question for you that needs answering first. Offensive to whom?

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[–] JusticeForPorygon 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think as long as you're not in blackface you can wear whatever the hell you want

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure there are other exceptions

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart 14 points 4 days ago (2 children)

My sexy Adolf Hitler got a great reception tonight.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

I feel there's a potential suicide joke here, but it would probably end up in bad taste.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

The Producers?

[–] mortimer 4 points 3 days ago

Is it Wonder Man?

[–] DragonsInARoom 8 points 4 days ago
[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's called "genderful appropriation". I just invented it. All the cool people will be getting offended by it really soon.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm not cool and I'm fucking furious you excluded me

[–] Bgugi 1 points 3 days ago

But more importantly, I'm furious that infinite excluded hugh

[–] Etterra 3 points 3 days ago

I personally think all gender flip characters are dumb, in either direction, personally. But here's the thing; it doesn't matter what I think. Do whatever the hell you want.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 days ago

People love the genderbending of characters. Go nuts.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago
[–] Orbituary 29 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Why would it be? Here is me and my ex on Halloween 2020. I was Lydia, she was Beetlejuice.

https://i.imgur.com/16EKIWR.jpeg

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

These are cute costumes!

[–] rishado 3 points 3 days ago

You guys both look awesome

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 days ago

No, cosplayers do that all the time

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

To whom could it be offensive?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 days ago

Go for it! Those offended are not your target audience

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 days ago

Be whomever you want to be

[–] theywilleatthestars 10 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 days ago

No, assuming the gender bend is respectful.

[–] njordomir 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I can't see a problem with fictional characters. It's when you bring in the real people that the drama starts. Trans JK Rowling, KaMANla Harris, Hillbilly Eilish, and Marjory Taylor Peen all seem like they would raise a few eyebrows.

[–] Feathercrown 5 points 4 days ago

For the record these would all be hilarious, ESPECIALLY Rowling

[–] Lauchs 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Ha, never heard or thought of trans Rowling but if I knew Harry Potter better I'd be damned tempted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

That's Hannah Potter now.

[–] ultrahamster64 2 points 5 days ago
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