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In the US most students recite "the pledge of allegiance" every morning before school, which is kind of crazy. If you were in charge, what if anything would you replace it with?

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] hakunawazo 16 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Damn that's a good answer.

[–] LesserAbe 11 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 85 points 1 month ago (2 children)

can it be nothing. why not nothing

[–] athairmor 19 points 1 month ago (2 children)

And do the same for the national anthem before every fucking sporting event. I’ll be damned if I’m standing and praying to a flag at every summer swim meet that is already going to take 4 hours to get done.

[–] JusticeForPorygon 7 points 1 month ago

Don't even get me started. My high school didn't just do sports events, but they did the anthem or the pledge before just about every single event held in the building.

Cultlike behavior.

Actually, no. Just Cult behavior.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I never understood why Americans do that. For international events where the anthems of both teams are played, sure. But otherwise? Do you guys forget which country you are in?

[–] athairmor 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s an effect of the crazy religiosity that Europe shipped over before the country was even founded. So much nutty Protestant fervor has rippled through American society since then. It infected secular institutions over time.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which makes it even more crazy to me.

I live in a very Protestant area in Europe. In fact, many of the Protestants who got driven out of France around 1700 have settled around here, so roughly a similar timeframe to the ones in America. And we turned out entirely different. Here, Protestants are considered the "technically Christian on paper but probably hasn't seen a church from the inside in a decade" kind of person while (some) Catholics are the conservative hardliners who want bibles and crosses in classrooms.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

It’s part of the militarization of everything, and acts as patriotism propaganda.

Not only the anthem, but they usually have armed forces people, equipment, sponsorship, etc. and why it’s such a big deal with athletes don’t fawn enough over it (eg. the take a knee “scandal”)

Sports are a strong recruitment tool, being popular with men throughout their lives, and have been wildly taken over with military propaganda as a result.

[–] saltesc 8 points 1 month ago

How dare you propose freedom in the land of the free. No freedom for you! Not until you pledge an allegiance.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A pledge enumerating the basic human rights of all people.

No flags, no governments, no religion needs a pledge. We need to pledge to be honorable human beings above all else.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago
[–] JusticeForPorygon 37 points 1 month ago

Nothing. Just let the kids do their morning uninterrupted.

It's state law where I live. Fucking crazy.

[–] Crashumbc 33 points 1 month ago

Nothing, propaganda pledges don't have a place in institutions of learning.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Nothing.

If you want your citizens to be loyal, give them a good life, not a brainwashing.

I am a Swede, my life has been good, I may not be physically fit for fighting, but I absolutely would join the military and do support for the fighting for Sweden if needed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I, too, would fight for Sweden, which I've only visited a few times to see my new in-laws.

Sweden is THAT awesome.

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[–] InverseParallax 5 points 1 month ago

I'm an American moving to Sweden right now.

I'd fight for you in a second. You're good people and I don't think you'd start shit without a reason.

So I guess "And you have my state of the art military AI drone technology!"

[–] Nog00d 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This one sounds kinda good:

  • One should strive to act with compassion and empathy towards all creatures in accordance with reason.
  • The struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions.
  • One's body is inviolable, subject to one's own will alone.
  • The freedoms of others should be respected, including the freedom to offend. To willfully and unjustly encroach upon the another is to forgo your own.
  • Beliefs should conform to our best scientific understanding of the world. We should take care never to distort scientific facts to fit our beliefs.
  • People are fallible. If we make a mistake, we should do our best to rectify it and resolve any harm that may have been caused.
  • Every tenet is a guiding principle designed to inspire nobility in action and thought. The spirit of compassion , wisdom, and justice should always prevail over the written or spoken word.
[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

Satanic laugh

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 month ago

Delete the middle.

“I pledge allegiance to liberty and justice for all”

[–] Rhoeri 23 points 1 month ago

I would replace it with education. Which is the purpose of schools.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

How about nothing? Why do we need to indoctrinate children with any kind of this bullshit?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

I just never did it, why even replace it. just remove it entirely.

[–] yesman 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No pledge. And "God bless America" should be dropped in favor of "Yippie-Ki-Yay, motherfucker".

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The 7 sacred tenants of the Satanic Temple

Ironically, I think the Satanic Temple would oppose such a policy.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

By Grabthar's Hammer, by the Suns of Warvan, you shall be avenged.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The Team Rocket motto

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 1 month ago

Nothing. Maybe a “good morning, do your best, and remember to be kind today”

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

daily affirmations would be nice for the kiddos

[–] InverseParallax 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

2 minutes of deep breathing to relax and concentrate, repeated through the day.

That's it, just give everyone a chance to relax and center before getting back to the crazy.

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[–] Skanky 9 points 1 month ago

Gee, I dunno...How about learning something?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Silent meditation.

[–] BluesF 8 points 1 month ago

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Nothing. There would be no replacement and the pledge would fade from memory.

[–] PriorityMotif 7 points 1 month ago

"we love our bread, we love our butter, but most of all we love each other" 🥰

[–] NineMileTower 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I pledge allegiance to the drag of the United Queens of America.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The I Love Egg song. No shortcuts.

Could even make an entire assembly about it. Every morning, spend five minutes dancing and showing allegiance to the vitamins and minerals in you, and oodles of the proteins too (oodle doodle)!

[–] theywilleatthestars 6 points 1 month ago

Back when I was an extremely earnest 14-year-old I wanted to replace it with Carl Sagan's Pale Blue Dot speech, but honestly that's probably too long and I don't think forcing 5-year-olds to recite something they won't even understand is a good way to instill anything worth instilling.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

The navy seal copypasta

[–] jaggedrobotpubes 6 points 1 month ago

I vow to live my life in a way that supports the thriving of all life in perpetuity.

[–] Mango 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I drink it from a cup.

I drink it from a bottle.

I drink it from the belly button

Of a super model!

Apple juice and vodka!

Apple juice and vodka!

Why you drinking water?

Apple juice and vodka!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If anything, get them to find/research their own that they identify with and explain what makes it personal to them.

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