this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
750 points (99.0% liked)

196

16279 readers
1956 users here now

Be sure to follow the rule before you head out.

Rule: You must post before you leave.

^other^ ^rules^

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 
top 38 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there an article about this?

[–] CluckN 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie 11 points 1 week ago

Recursion: see Recursion

[–] AnUnusualRelic 9 points 1 week ago

Good enough.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm not crying, you're crying. Shut up

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Guilty as charged

[–] Tylerdurdon 36 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Not sure I'd really call this an "enlightened time."

[–] PugJesus 101 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Relative to the 1940s, it is.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago

To be fair, they said 'a more enlightened time', like how my face can be more handsome without me actually being handsome. :|

[–] norimee 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Times did change though, quite a lot even.

I'm not LGBTQ+ so I can only say what I know from other people. But when you speak to older gay people, boomer gays and such, they tell you awfuly heartbreaking stories.

Of course gays and other LGBTQ+ folx still get hated on and discriminated and there is still a long, long way to go.

But that doesn't change, that nowadays you can publish loveletters of two men, without destroying the lives of each person involved. Back then, the letter writers would have probably ended up in prison and everyone else with knowledge of them or any kind of involvement would loose their jobs and carrers and would have been shunned. Someone responsible publishing them or making a film about them, would probably go to prison too.

So yes. I'd call this a more enlightened time compared to Europe in the 1930'/40's.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

The 1920's were starting to become enlightened... which only fueled the facists hate. Were currently in that same situation, but this time we must let the facists know they are weak and wont hurt anymore people this time.

[–] Rolando 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah, not the same thing and a couple decades earlier but Wilde's "De Profundis" is a useful contrast.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I was thinking the same: Made into a book that will be thrown onto a burning pile of woke books if trump wins.

[–] Tylerdurdon 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Except it's still a kind of dumb take honestly. Your country has a minority of hateful fucks in positions of power, that can rile up the 30% minority of other hateful fucks that vote them in.

Let alone that, ya know, the rest of the world also exists and is, for the most part, headed in the right direction.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wait in what world are you living where countries are heading in the right direction? Fascism, ultranationalism and the far right are thriving with no indication of slowing down.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Victoria, Australia. Thinking of changing my birth cert to puppygirl, because legally I can ☺️

[–] Fedizen 13 points 1 week ago

10% more enlightened

[–] norimee 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone has more information about the book? This is something I'd like to request my library to add to their collection.

[–] norimee 14 points 1 week ago

I found the short film that was mentioned in the article someone else mentioned The Letter Men

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Awwww, what a close friendship they had. Fully plutonic. Just two very straight friends. Good ol' guy love, between two guys.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Totally plutonic. No real planets involved

[–] tb_ 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Plutonic love was between fat man and little boy.

... That sounds kinda off

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Do not compute. Isn't Pluto Mickey Mouse's pet dog?

[–] SassyRamen 21 points 1 week ago

That's disgusting! People shouldn't be made into books, it's unhygienisch

[–] VubDapple 14 points 1 week ago

This is cool. A literal dream come true.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For anyone interested, these two did not get together after the war and live happily ever after.

One of them shacked up with two other men while on deployment.

Limerence is a hell of a thing.

[–] FrowingFostek 5 points 1 week ago

Thanks for teaching me a new word.

[–] DerArzt 6 points 1 week ago

That's so cute!