For like the millionth fucking time. Stop writing articles like this as if there was no previous context. He crossed this line over a decade ago.
this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2024
163 points (90.1% liked)
politics
19229 readers
3044 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
He's crossed more lines than a book full of Edward Gorey illustrations.
…again. And there will be absolutely no consequences. Again.
It's on voters to impose them by keeping him out of office
It really, really shouldn't be just on voters. This shit is defamatory and incites violence; there should be legal consequences for it.
Yeah, I wish the legal system didn’t have this deference to “the voters will decide” when it reaches the level of actual criminal activity. Like the fact that you are running for or currently hold some office should have no impact at all on whether we are all equal before the law or how the law treats us. Yet every court and law enforcement agency seems terrified of the appearance of influencing the outcome of an election to the point that as long as you are running for something you are essentially legally bulletproof if the election is coming up soon.
That would require the rule of law but we apparently ran out of that awhile ago and forgot to buy more. Or really, it never applied to certain people as much as others and now that is truly laid bare by the failures of the legal system to bring consequences for the crimes we have all witnessed Trump committing.
To bad half of them are hateful fucking morons.
Half of us....Let's not other-ize them because I'm assuming you are also American, and like it or not they are our fucking peers.
One way or another they are our fucking problem to deal with unfortunately. I know you didn't really mean it like that most likely, but I think it is important to recognize that we have to accept the reality of the society we are living in no matter how much we fucking hate it.
No, I did mean it like that.
I'm absolutely certain I'm a "them" to them. They're trying to turn my country into a shit hole that's dangerous for people like me and even more dangerous for people I care about. So fuck them. I'm willing to forgive the simpletons who don't understand what they're doing, but there is no "us" anymore unless and until they give up entirely on their dreams of building a racially pure fascist theocracy and do a really, really good job of showing they're sincere and remorseful. Their leaders need to be swinging from ropes just like the Nazis convicted at Nuremberg, or at least rotting in prison. I won't be holding my breath for that to happen.
The thing I believe you are missing in your assessment is that it took outside forces to overcome Nazism in Germany, and Fascism in Europe more broadly.
Nobody is coming to save us this time. We are the world's leading nuclear superpower. So, any attempt to change course is going to have to come from within unless we are talking about destroying civilization entirely.
I don't see a way that outside diplomacy is going to have any effect either. We must accept the reality we are in, and fight back by using grassroots methods to stop the radicalization of our peers.
I grant you that it feels like a hopeless battle at times, but so do all wars of attrition. I understand the anger and the fear. It is justified. However, we need to be clear eyed and sober minded about the reality we are living in. So, I think my original point still stands.
He crossed it before he was president when he suggested he wouldn’t accept the results of an election.
He didn't do that when he committed treason probably a thousand times?
I was going to say the "grab them by the pussy" tape was crossing the line, but yeah, treason as well.
Now watch as nearly half the voting population accepts this behavior.
- Trump is a incompetent liar, with a first Presidential administration that saw over 1 million Americans die from a purposefully sandbagged and mismanaged worldwide viral pandemic response, capped off by a violent and deadly insurrection in the nations capitol building
- Having had his pants pulled down on national television by Kamala Harris, he has no other option than to start throwing molotov cocktails into the zeitgeist, knowing the feckless media will oblige for ad revenue, hoping to push Harris/Waltz below the fold
- Well meaning though obviously ignorant netziens continue to repost articles, mocking Trump, thereby amplifying his messages of hate and division, which is the only way his molotov cocktail throwing can achieve the goal of keeping him on the front page, and sucking all the air out of any energy praising Harris
As Boris Johnson famously wrote about it, this is "the dead cat on the table" strategy:
There is one thing that is absolutely certain about throwing a dead cat on the dining room table – and I don't mean that people will be outraged, alarmed, disgusted. That is true, but irrelevant. The key point, says my Australian friend, is that everyone will shout, "Jeez, mate, there’s a dead cat on the table!" In other words, they will be talking about the dead cat – the thing you want them to talk about – and they will not be talking about the issue that has been causing you so much grief.
These right wing fuckos all have the same playbook
Habitual line-stepper!
And next week, he will cross a other one. This is what he does. His base loves it, because he says the things they are thinking.
Why did the narcissist cross the road?
They thought it was a boundary.
Yawn. He's been crossing a new line every day since 2016 just about. This isn't news.
Well, before 2016 too.
ABC FAKE NEWS has been completely discredited, and is now under investigation. Did they give Comrade Kamala the questions? It was 3 on 1, but they were mentally challenged people, against one person of extraordinary genius. It wasn’t even close, as is now reflected in the polls. I WON THE DEBATE!
=@realDonaldTrump
Man he is an asshole
Did he really post this? Where? TruthSocial?
Even if they have her the questions, it wouldn't affect an extraordinary genius lol..a genius would still win lol
Not the case though....
Again? Wake me when he's held accountable.
Trump lives on the wrong side of every line. If you can no longer support him after his latest transgression, you are probably on the wrong side of a bunch of issues. I'm glad people are realizing they cannot support him anymore, but there is not nearly enough introspection among former Trumpers.
he's got no lines to cross... he lives on yhe other side of humanity. However lines werr and will be crossed when US public elects him.
We’re far beyond the point of no return with these “people.” We know, they know, everybody knows what a menace they are and there’s no pretending otherwise. He set up the system in his favor last time, and could possibly reap the rewards in November. Protesting and harsh rhetoric will accomplish nothing.
But we’re all too comfortable to truly defend normalcy anymore. We’ll watch it happen.
Time to move the unacceptable line farther away again.
... Again? He does that all the time, how is this news?
ITT: Bunch of people understandably blackpilled on the justice system.
New York Times you are a bad joke now. Good of you to finally wake up but we will see how long that lasts.
It's an opinion piece, not representing the nyt
No he hasn't