Lina Khan is a champion of the people. She's one of a zillion reasons voting matters.
this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2024
538 points (99.4% liked)
News
23412 readers
3487 users here now
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
She's an absolute rock star
Walz/Khan 2032
I’m very interested how this will affect Amazon, and how they will be able to enforce it
Maybe they shouldn't have 6,000 versions of the same thing under different fake brands sold by fake companies.
Clean that up and the rest becomes a hell of a lot easier.
Not to mention the sellers that swap the product but keep the reviews
I think a lot of that stuff is people buying items in bulk off alibaba, rebranding it, and listing. Most of it is crap, but that's how stuff like it can be so cheaply produced, it's one or two factories producing at scale.
All the DCRYTJT HDMI cables for a start. Got a couple of bad reviews? Just run your hand over the keyboard at random, there's your new brand name. They're now XDCRHJT HDMI cables.
Generic products should just be listed together.
AMZ: Who, us? All our reviews are REAL!
Target and Walmart: Yeah, what they said!
Lowe's is horrible about this too. Most of the big box stores are but Lowe's seems to be the most egregious about it
I updated my Firefox browser. Now, when viewing a product on Amazon, Firefox rates the reviews A-F based on whether or not they are reliable.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Fuck Amazon. Never buy their basics bullshit, they steal shit and rebrand it. It's as unethical as purchasing shit gets.
Edit: Here's a video! https://youtu.be/HbxWGjQ2szQ
load more comments
(3 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
The ban also forbids marketers from exaggerating their own influence by, for example, paying for bots to inflate their follower count.
I wonder if "followers" includes users and how that will impact Twitter, Reddit, Facebooky, Instagram, TikTok, etc who use stats like active users to drive ad sales.
But I thought Elon got rid of all the bots... does that mean my sweetheart's link isn't actually in their bio?
I am devastated.
I'm curious about that too, I assumed the main target was online storefronts but it seems more expansive than that. Was surprised to learn about Amazon suing admins of FB groups.
Let's hope this means the constant calls I get on What's App to work as a fake promoter bumping review scores will stop.
I was starting to be tempted because I hate poverty.
There’s no way they will be able to enforce this.
Here's one way to enforce it: the FTC could set up fronts that sell fake reviews. If anyone tries to buy fake reviews, the FTC busts them.
After doing this enough, companies will be suspicious of anyone selling fake reviews. Maybe suspicious enough to not risk buying them. Kind of like how it's common knowledge that every supposed killer-for-hire is actually an FBI agent waiting to arrest you.
Eventually, nobody want to buy fake reviews. And when nobody wants to pay for them, they will disappear.
That….. could work.
load more comments
(4 replies)
Perhaps the value is in having something explicitly written in a book, so that we can actually throw it at them.
They won't catch all cases, but maybe the fear of slipping and becoming the unlucky company that gets caught and punished will have a positive effect on the industry.
I don't have a backgrounder in law, this is simply optimistic speculation in response to pessimistic speculation.
load more comments
(2 replies)
The enforcement of this is going to be pretty tough. And the fake reviews by bots will get argued to high hell and back in court. "They aren't bots, they are real people in click farms".
Love the direction but I am not holding my breath until we see some actionable change from this.
That's not how this works. The rule can't stop you as a private person. You can still post bot reviews.
It will apply to businesses, which don't have the right to remain silent or against searches. If they suspect a business is breaking the rules, they can subpoena the employees, computers and bank records to check if they are breaking the rule. And if they think the employees would risk jail time for perjury or destruction of evidence to protect their employer, they can just raid the offices and seize the computers.
Amazon has some major cleaning up to do
The new rule bans writing, buying or selling fake reviews.
It does not require Amazon or Apple to identify or delete fake reviews.
I won't believe this is serious until somebody kicks down a door
I purchased an FTC and was very pleased with my product. It can be loud at times and make bold claims, but in the end does nothing.
How can this possibly be enforced?
Not sure why you're being down voted. It's a legit question even if you support the law. Enforcement seems very difficult and other laws and courts make even easier enforcement difficult.
I still think it's a very positive direction from the FTC.
Not sure why you're being down voted
I guess Reddit habits never die, eh?
But, I’d love to see this come to fruition. I just don’t see how enforcement could keep up with the sheer numbers of fake reviews.
The rule targets people who write or sell fake reviews. So the FTC could pretend to be a manufacturer soliciting fake reviews, and then go after anyone who offers to sell them.
load more comments
(2 replies)
Might just give way to an arms race for realistic fake reviews, but at least this gives teeth to investigators. If they can prove that a company did it, then they have a rule to cite that it’s an offense, instead of the fuck-all we have now.
The same way as other laws. A small fine that gets rolled into the cost of doing business.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(12 replies)
Now there's an interesting one. If this is actually enforced properly then it could really have a big impact on some sites that are notorious for bot spamming to make themselves look impressive.
Very true but man this is gonna be tough to actually enforce. Not only just bots but how the heck are paid reviews gonna be found and banned? Those are legit reviews by actual people, just saying bull crap because they were paid or received a free product or something
load more comments
(1 replies)
This will be fun to Amazon, either 95% of all reviews will suddenly disappear or they're no longer legal.
So, they’re gonna start policing Apple’s App Store for the many obviously fake reviews and make Apple do something about it, right? Please be yes.
So long as they do the same for androids store and everyone else- I agree.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Hopefully they address those companies that force frontload all the 5-star, then 4-star, etc. with no way to sort except by going through hundreds of pages.
Next ban fake followers lmao
They mention followers in the article!
Read the article
view more: next ›