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President Biden said he is "not confident at all" that there will be a peaceful transfer of power in January 2025 if former President Donald Trump is defeated.

"He means what he says. We don't take him seriously. He means it. All the stuff about 'If we lose, there'll be a bloodbath, it'll have been a stolen [election],'" Mr. Biden told CBS News chief election and campaign correspondent Robert Costa in his first sit-down interview since announcing he was dropping out of the 2024 presidential race and endorsing Vice President Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination. The interview will air on "CBS News Sunday Morning" on Sunday, Aug. 11.

"Look what they're trying to do now in the local election districts where people count the votes," said Mr. Biden. Repeating a familiar maxim about elections and democracy, the president said, "You can't love your country only when you win."

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[–] paddirn 170 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Maybe we should have given harsher punishments to the people who tried doing that the first time around?

[–] nolannice 76 points 3 months ago

Why are you trying to make elections political?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago

I mean, look at Germany. Not punishing the Nazis harder the first time worked out so well [in hindsight]

Luckily we can learn from their mistakes and....

Wait...

Shit.

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[–] worldwidewave 120 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

I don’t know, I think it’s pretty unreasonable to assume Trump will attempt another coup. What, does he have a coup for one special? /s

I’m glad Biden’s calling this shit out now, and hope they’ve got a plan when a few dozen Arizona counties refuse to certify the results.

[–] ChronosTriggerWarning 56 points 3 months ago (1 children)

One saving grace is this time, it ain't the diaper in Chief calling the shots. Biden won't hesitate to call the national guard if need be.

That being said, i think the violence is gonna happen at State capitals this time.... I hope I'm wrong.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

I think you’re right. I honestly think Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, etc should probably have the national guard in place the night before.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 20 points 3 months ago

What, does he have a coup for one special?

Take a lap.

[–] vortexsurfer 17 points 3 months ago

What, does he have a coup for one special?

Maybe he has a... coupon...?

[–] elbucho 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Average American president attempts 0.004 coups per year" factoid actually just a statistical error. Average American president attempts 0 coups per year. Traitors Donal, who dyes face orange & attempts over 0.25 coups each year, is an outlier adn should not have been counted.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hell, i’m not confident there’d be a peaceful transfer of power if he wins

[–] CharlesDarwin 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Chances are high it will not be peaceful for anyone on his stupid enemies list AFTER the transfer of power.

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[–] jordanlund 35 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The transfer of power from Biden to Harris should be peaceful because Trump isn't involved in it.

2021 wasn't peaceful only because Trump still had power. If he has no power, you shut that shit down and it's peaceful.

"I want a permit to protest the counting of votes!"

(Checks history) "Yeah, permit denied."

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk, Dump has a rabid cult fan base that collects guns

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I live in Baltimore. That shit doesn't scare me. I'd like to see them try.

Trumpers who advertise as such on their vehicles and try starting shit have been known to leave with a couple extra "vent holes" on their vehicles.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have been watching The Wire again so I feel like I also live in Baltimore (I live in Ireland)

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[–] Plopp 4 points 3 months ago

I thought those were speed holes.

[–] meleecrits 25 points 3 months ago

We all know Trump won't accept the results. He didn't in 2020, and in 2016 he claimed it was still rigged against him even when he won.

It's really weird when you think about it.

[–] homesweethomeMrL 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If only he had access to the largest police and surveillance apparatus in the history of ever. Maybe he could, y’know, prevent the inevitable bullshit and bloodletting.

Trumps lies about 2020 were such outrageous bullshit anyway, there wasn’t a single solitary shred of a molecule of truth in any of it. ZERO TOLERANCE, ZERO PATIENCE for that fucking guy and his inevitable bullshit parade.

Fool me once . . . shame on . . . shame on you . . fool me twice . . Y- . . Y’can’t get fooled again.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

Maybe if we had an Attorney-General who did things other than try to ensure he gets into nice country clubs we'd do something about this.

Too bad.

[–] HappycamperNZ 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See, this is how smart it was Biden not running again.

I completely forgot he existed, and has just been chugging along doing president things.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

I love all the closet right wingers thinking some fat ass country loving civilians with guns is going to overtake a country by itself.

The only reason anything happened last time is that agent orange was facilitating the insurrection from the inside. Now its just a bunch of idiots who maybe have guns.

So... America?

Whatever, just get the military ready in case they try.

[–] Donkter 6 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I appreciate the nonchalance but the help agent orange offered from the inside was calling off some guards for a little bit and mostly just not making a speech telling his fans to calm down. The fact is that January 6th was a pretty disorganized protest that turned into a riot due to a handful of instigators and what we discovered is that the capitol building is not routinely well protected and only avoided riots like this because they hadn't happened.

Which is a good thing. Public institutions should be kept safe because they serve the people well enough that no one wants to take them over. Not because they employ an overwhelming police force to keep the public out. (The original intent was that citizens would be able to just walk around most of these buildings if they wanted to see the government functioning, imagine that eh?)

Now, obviously, DC is going to be on lockdown during inauguration day (as it should be) with a lot more military/police presence. But my point is that if an actually semi-organized militia had been there on Jan 6th with just a few more pistols and some designated leaders and organizers, they would have easily made it into the capitol even if trump had actually done everything to stop them. They would have been massacred in the resulting conflict as the US military sent its full force at them ofc but it would have been a much more consequential day.

This isn't me going to bat for anyone, the right wing militias are pitiful both in numbers and training. It's just that I think the potential for danger and bloodshed when these guys finally snap and make their desperate bid for attention will be a little more violent than I see people seem to think.

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[–] kerrigan778 5 points 3 months ago

That's wishful thinking, they have put up far more infrastructure around state election counting than any previous election, the shady shit with batches of votes going missing from 20 years ago is nothing compared to what they're doing nowadays. They will do anything to shift vote counting and then cast doubt about the legitimacy enough that they can send it to the supreme court again. It happened before with Bush v Gore with much less shady dealing and a much less stacked supreme court than they have set up now.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago

as is anyone who was alive and voting in the last election. You would have to be brain dead to not worry about what that clown may do.

[–] Treczoks 14 points 3 months ago

Well, you're the boss. Prepare for what you expect, and lock the rioters up.

[–] ZagamTheVile 14 points 3 months ago

This is probably in prep for shutting shit down. If you start warning people now, it'll be "I told you they were gonna wild out, and we're handling it" not "release the rabid dogs on the opposing party".

[–] ZombieMantis 10 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The headline makes it sound like he's not gonna let Kamala take his place... 🤔

As for his actual words, Joe's right, Trump's not going down easy. The good news is that Donnie isn't in power now, and won't be in charge of the Federal response to whatever unfolds.

[–] xantoxis 3 points 3 months ago

It actually gets really complicated if the damage he does is at the state or local level. A "coup" in the US capital is probably no longer a possibility, but he could cause a lot of chaos if he got a couple dozen scattered enclaves of lawless resistance to lawful voting procedures, and they didn't back down. Are we gonna send national troops to half a dozen different states to make them obey? Is that even constitutionally feasible?

Anywhere we have the slightest doubt about that, we have to act now--Biden has to act now--to guarantee good-faith election management and fallbacks in case it doesn't happen.

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[–] SkyezOpen 7 points 3 months ago

It doesn't matter. The vp has the ability to arbitrarily change the election outcome. RIGHT DONNIE?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Well of course not. We've already seen them practice.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

i believe what Biden says not because he said it but because Trump is desperate to pull that get out of jail free card.

[–] Snapz 4 points 3 months ago

A barricade of couches around the white house will stop trump and JD in their tracks... But for different reasons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Well, yeah. If he had said anything else I would be shaking my head at how out-of-touch he was. They will absolutely try January 6th again, only this time I hope the Capitol and DC police are ready for them. Not to mention Congress, maybe they will put a stop to Republican reps helping rioters plan their insurrection.

[–] peregrinetech 2 points 3 months ago

So another attack on the Capitol, ha. Handle it better at least, Joe

[–] samus12345 2 points 3 months ago

Fortunately, he won't be in power if he loses, so his expected Joe Six-pack rioters won't have the federal government backing them up this time.

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