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[–] [email protected] 219 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Isn't claiming territory that doesn't belong to you as yours the definition of imperialism?

[–] [email protected] 98 points 3 months ago (2 children)

They get around this by using a version of Lenin's definition of imperialism. Lenin characterised imperialism as, in very simple terms, the way that powerful capitalist countries exploit poorer countries (or straight up colonies, especially considering the time in which Lenin was writing). Of course they use a version of this that specifically defines it as just literally anything the countries they don't like do, leading to ProleWiki insisting that Russia is not imperialist but Liechtenstein is

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Similarly to how 'reactionary' just means 'bad' to these people. For the record a 'reactionary' is somebody who wants to restore a previous status quo. It's not inherently good or bad.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (2 children)

It all starts with a flag.

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[–] [email protected] 136 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (10 children)

By this logic, Australia, America, India and a ton of other countries are still part of England.

[–] T00l_shed 99 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"No, not like that!" - tankies

[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Wait till Portugal and Spain get hold of this.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Most of England belongs to Rome!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Except for that northern bit across the wall.

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[–] Chivera 67 points 3 months ago (4 children)

And Skyrim belongs to the Nords!

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[–] Fetus 62 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Calling it North Korea and not the Democratic People's Republic of Korea?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure you mean “Best Korea”

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 3 months ago (3 children)
  • USA belongs to Great Britain
  • England and France belongs to the Roman empire
  • Poland belongs to Prussia
[–] mecfs 26 points 3 months ago (8 children)

England belongs to roman empire too.

Oh wait, does that mean US belongs to the roman empire all along?

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No countries are real. Everything belongs to everyone because our ancestors were there first.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (10 children)

The US belongs to the UK. But you can keep the Bible belt, we don't want that bit.

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There's no possible way this isn't bait.

[–] Windex007 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I wish to return to the time where I could have agreed with you

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[–] pyre 47 points 3 months ago

if you don't support imperialism, you're supporting imperialism

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (2 children)

But Russia officially belongs to Mongolia

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[–] Anticorp 40 points 3 months ago (23 children)

It's a neat little trick how fascists say things that are the exact opposite of objective reality, and don't see the irony.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (8 children)

My favorite brand of rage is the kind i feel when someone says a bunch of evil things and then follows it with "if you disagree, youre the evil one"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago (6 children)

These countries that want to be free and independent should be owned by another country that wants to own them and if you disagree you support imperialism... mind-boggling

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[–] chemical_cutthroat 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (6 children)

TIL there are "'correct" .ml communities.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago

Well there sure as hell are "incorrect" ones, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago

[email protected] and other open source projects are decent

As always, [email protected] and [email protected] are here as alternatives

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't people 'belonging' someone else a definition of slavery?

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[–] dejected_warp_core 38 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

FWIW, the full list of disputed territories is much longer than you think. Basically, every map in existence is also picking sides whether they know it or not; a realization I find chilling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_territorial_disputes

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[–] ZILtoid1991 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Within Russia, "imperialism" means "opposition of Russian imperialism", and "fascism" is just used as "opposition of not supporting the Russian government".

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago

POV: you wrote anything anywhere and you don't have hexabear/lemmygrad/lemmyml blocked.

[–] El_guapazo 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)
[–] CptEnder 18 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Louisiana (Kansas, Missouri, Dakotas, Minnesota) belongs to France! 🇫🇷

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[–] michaelmrose 30 points 3 months ago

Imagine looking at millions of people living in the relatively prosperous democracy of South Korea and believing that all these people belong as chattel slaves of a monarch who starves his people and throws entire families into concentration camps to die if one member dares to speak out. Every regime supported here is a fascist dictator.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Most Communists I know of are very much pro-Rojava on account of their attempts to build a socialistic society.

Seems like a bait tweet to me.

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[–] MeaanBeaan 27 points 3 months ago

"If you don't support the rights of these imperialistic fascist regimes to do imperialistic and fascist things then you are an imperialist and a fascist."

Yeah okay. Sure.

[–] AeonFelis 26 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Did they provide any justification for the claim? Or is it just the usual "because I said so"?

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[–] bitjunkie 25 points 3 months ago (19 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago

huh? isnt china the top imperialist in the list? who gained more land in the last decade? pfff lemmygrads are a special kind of stupid.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (2 children)

There are only wrong .ml communities

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (3 children)

is this the hexbear manifestó

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I can’t believe they would grandstand like that and leave out “America belongs to the natives”. Pretty weird.

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[–] Etterra 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do they even know what "imperialism" means?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago

Their definition of imperialism is the USA, and only the USA.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

Lasagna belongs to my mouth

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