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[–] [email protected] 315 points 3 months ago (2 children)

She's said she'll be at ABC on Sep 10, and looks forward to debating Trump in the time and place he previously agreed to. She's holding his feet to the fire on this, I don't expect there to be any agreement on any other debate until this one is over.

[–] g0nz0li0 154 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Explains why he was so antagonistic toward the ABC reporter at the National Association of Black Journalists. As bad as that makes him look outside of the MAGA bubble, it lets him make the pathetic argument that ABC was mean to him so he won't go debate there. His fragile little ego is more important to him than winning the election. Good news for democracy lovers.

[–] BradleyUffner 39 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You are giving his cognitive abilities far too much credit.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The biggest mistake that can be made is to consider your opponent dumb, thus underestimating them.

Assume it was a purposeful play, and counter appropriately.

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[–] [email protected] 195 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Trump is a weird, old, coward.

[–] FlyingSquid 33 points 3 months ago

Very weird. Many people are saying so.

[–] rayyy 26 points 3 months ago

Ya mean DonOLD?

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[–] psycho_driver 155 points 3 months ago (3 children)

The debate should take place on a news channel.

[–] [email protected] 126 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This. Fox is just an entertainment channel legally per their own admission.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Fucking exactly!

They and any other network that wants to be considered "journalism/news" should NOT be allowed to have their opinion entertainment shows on the same network/channel as their journalistic programs.

It's absolute bullshit that they're allowed to get away with this crap where working hours when no one is home to watch is when we have our journalists on, then primetime is when we lie with impunity on our opinion shows because It'S EnTeRtAiNmEnT NoT NeWs!

I'm really sick of the fact that Fox has had this decade long run of "The Days of our Trump's" drama...

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[–] Lemminary 111 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Between this and her openly calling him a criminal in her public statement, I can tell dis gon be gud. Oh, I'm cackling.

[–] worldwidewave 113 points 3 months ago (1 children)

“It's interesting how 'any time, any place' becomes 'one specific time, one specific safe space,'" she wrote on social media platform X. "I'll be there on Sept. 10, like he agreed to. I hope to see him there."

She’s definitely signaling that she’s going to give him a spanking at the debate. I really hope it happens, and he gets into his defensive mode where he really scrambles.

[–] CitizenKong 26 points 3 months ago

We have already seen what he will do. He will call her rude and nasty and then try to argue she isn't black. He's a brocken record at this point.

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[–] Furbag 107 points 3 months ago

If Trump wants to debate, he can show up to the one he already agreed to go to.

[–] Ghostalmedia 106 points 3 months ago (4 children)

He wants Fox? Fine.

Do a two moderator combo. One from Fox, and the other is Jon Stewart or Rachel Maddow.

And if you want to get really messy, make the audience a 50/50 recruitment spit too. And assign seating at random.

[–] Sterile_Technique 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And assign seating at random.

Whoa whoa... we don't want there to be blood!

[–] hoshikarakitaridia 45 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you wanna make it interactive, hide pool noodles under the seats and see what happens when people start antagonizing their seat neighbors.

[–] Zahille7 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jerry Springer, 2024 edition.

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[–] hogmomma 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Stewart can play both roles on his own. He will not hesitate to call EITHER side out.

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[–] taiyang 32 points 3 months ago

50/50 split with random season will result in an all out Jerry Springer style brawl.

Yeah. I'd watch that.

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He was counting on the audience to yell over Kamala when she talked, and Faux to have mysterious technical issues when it came time for his mike to be muted.

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Maybe jussssst maybe we don't need to hand piece of shit billionare owned media exclusivity? Like mayyyyybe we use a college campus and have the signal aired and all so-called "media" can broadcast it to their audiences? The moderators are more than likely the issue they'll argue about, but all they did last time was read off a card and hit a mute button (sometimes)... A janitor and the weekend maintenance person could handle that shit.

Nahhh... That's like commusocialvezuelaism or something.

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[–] kokesh 62 points 3 months ago (3 children)

He is afraid to be alone in a room with her.

[–] FlyingSquid 22 points 3 months ago

He's old enough that women can fight back now.

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[–] UncleGrandPa 58 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Trump wants a forum where he is free to spout lies without fact checkers and his supporters can scream over any objections

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Obviously it needs to be outside in a field with a lot of tall buildings.

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[–] raynethackery 56 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I hope they are doing a ton of debate prep with her. He'll be hopped on drugs to keep him going. He may be a liar but he is also a bully and very bombastic. He doesn't have to beat her on the issues he just has to overwhelm her.

[–] the_joeba 51 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think her time as a criminal prosecutor will come in handy.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (3 children)

In court there are rules even he had to obey. On Fox with a handpicked audience it would be chaos.

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[–] madcaesar 32 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you remember the VP debate? She shut Pence up with "I'm speaking...!" I hope she gives Trump a haymaker like that

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Seems reasonable. There is already an agreed upon time and place, anything other than that is back tracking by Trump. Even if they try to spin it to say he "agreed" to do it on Fox, to try and put the ball in Harris' court. The reality is he already agreed to the ABC debate and any change is him backing out of that and pivoting.

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[–] Etterra 49 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Him: Come, fight me in my lair where they feed me endless energy and fight in my behalf!

Her: How about fuck you.

Him: Waaaah!

Her: points and laughs

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[–] leadore 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

David Plouffe, an adviser to former President Barack Obama who recently joined the Harris campaign, posted on social media: "Now, he seems only comfortable in a cocoon, asking his happy place Fox to host a Trump rally and call it a debate. Maybe he can only handle debating someone his own age.

Exactly. Can you imagine trying to conduct a debate with him at one of his rallies?

Moderator: Would you choose the shark or electrocution?

Trump: I'll take electrocution every time

Harris: I am the shark

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[–] profdc9 37 points 3 months ago

Trump will be asking to duel with pistols next, except only he gets bullets.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This isn't a 90's Sitcom, Trump. You weird, old, deprecated bastard.

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[–] d00phy 31 points 3 months ago (4 children)

I’ve been trying to think of a good response if he starts following Harris around like he did Hillary. Something along the lines of stopping, looking him in the eye and…

“What are you doing?” “I’m just walking.” “Well walk over there. You following me around like this is creepy.” Looks to moderator, “Can we do something about this? This is weird, right?”

On paper, pretty mild. But in the middle of a Presidential debate, I think it would be great.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe doing something at Fox could work, but it won't be a debate. It could be entertainment. It will be a waste of time in this arrangement. I think.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Remember when Bernie went on Fox and got cheers? https://youtu.be/DV60Q8-B808

[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago

"Who's gonna pay for healthcare?"

First world countries pay less per capita for universal healthcare than the US does to cover a minority and in the US the majority has to also pay for private coverage as well as the share of their taxes that goes to public healthcare coverage THAT THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO. Implemented the right way, 100% public healthcare would actually save the US government money, implemented wrong it would still save people money because right now it's for profit companies that cover them, the government isn't a for profit business, it only needs to collect enough taxes to pay for the service.

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[–] HootinNHollerin 23 points 3 months ago

Good faux ‘news’ is ultra biased

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