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What is this nonsense? "The world's first Miss AI has been crowned" (www.techradar.com)

submitted 5 months ago by FlyingSquid to c/fuck_ai

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As if beauty pageants with humans weren't awful enough. Let's celebrate simulated women with beauty standards too unrealistic for any real women to live up to!

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Such a noble use of a small country's worth of energy. Great job, humanity.

[+] 0laura -21 points 5 months ago (3 children)

generating ai images uses less energy than gaming.

[–] Etterra 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

On a per use case, you're probably correct. However mass adoption is being crammed down our throats and up our asses whether we like it or not. Nobody's forcing anybody to play video games.

[–] Orbituary 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What are you defending here?

[–] jeeva 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Have you got a source for that?

A quick search suggests that generating an image consumes between 0.01 and 0.29 kWhs (quite a range, so let's hit the middle and use 0.14kWh), while playing Cyberpunk on a PS5 pulls about 200W, so ~0.2kWh per hour.

Seems pretty comparable, assuming you only generate a few images an hour... but if you were generating dozens, it seems like you'd overtake gaming pretty quickly.

Edit: I apologise, I took the Google summary of an article at face value. Clicking through to the linked article here actually says per 1,000 image generations which is far lower. Urgh, though actually the article also says 0.01 to 0.29 kWh. I'm just going to find another article. 🤦 If you did have a source with numbers, I'd still be interested in seeing it!

[–] 0laura 3 points 5 months ago

Great question! I actually don't really have an official source, it's from my own experience.

I run ComfyUI locally on my own Laptop and generating an image takes 4 seconds, during which my 3070 Laptop GPU uses 80 Watts (the maximum amount of power it can use). It also fully uses one of the 16 threads of my i7-11800H (TDP of 45W). Let's overestimate a bit and say it uses 100% of the CPU (even though in reality it's only 6.25%), which adds 45 watts resulting in 125 watts (or 83 watts if you account for the fact that it only uses one thread).

That's 125 watts for 4 seconds for one image, or about 0.139 WH (0.000139KWH). That would be 7200 images per KWH. Playing one hour of Cyberpunk on a PS5 would be equivalent to me generating 1440 images on my laptop

"Sources":

[–] 0laura 0 points 5 months ago

Oh I forgot to add a disclaimer kinda. I use a model based on SD1.5, which is best for generating new images at 768x512 pixels. Upscaling it to 1536x1024 using AI would take about 4 times as long and thus use 4 times as much energy, but you would only upscale an image after having generated many images and getting one you are satisfied with, so I don't think it makes that big of a difference. Maybe out of 100 pictures I'd upscale one to share it. Though I mostly do AI image generation because I think the technology is really cool. I love toying around with the node system in ComfyUI.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (2 children)

lol beauty pageants aren't creepy enough so let's do it with pretend women?

[–] FlyingSquid 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

And somehow it's an "influencer." Why is anyone being influenced by a fake person?!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Aren't all influencers fake people?

(I mean they're people but everything about them is fake)

[–] FlyingSquid 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

But at least they exist! This is like taking fashion advice from the tooth fairy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is like taking fashion advice from the tooth fairy.

Hey, it was a phase, and we agreed to never speak of that again.

[–] FlyingSquid 4 points 5 months ago

You did look darling in that tutu.

[–] Etterra 3 points 5 months ago

Have you met people?

[–] laughterlaughter -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Trekkies.

Comic book fans.

Gamers.

Book worms.

Shall I continue?

[–] FlyingSquid 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

As someone who asked the question and is also all of those things, perhaps you can explain how any of them involve a simulated person a computer created using words a computer wrote with humans only being superficially involved.

Being influenced by "Luke Skywalker" is still being influenced by a human writing a script and an actor reading that script. You're still looking at a real person and hearing words a real person wrote. And I think anyone on that list is aware that they are not being influenced by the character itself because, unlike what Galaxy Quest may have told you, we don't all think it's secretly true.

[–] laughterlaughter -2 points 5 months ago

Why is anyone being influenced by a fake person?!

That was your original question, and I answered it.

You added more context and I don't see how that's different.

using words a computer wrote with humans only being superficially involved.

Bro, you're dismissing the tons of people who created the technology lol! The chipmakers, the computer makers, the software makers - all human, so...

But let's entertain your argument. You're saying that the artificial entity was created by something not human. Let's expand my list of examples, then:

Tarot.
Astrology.
Demons.

People are heavily influenced by those too.

[–] JeeBaiChow 4 points 5 months ago

And let's have her follow made up religious rules from another imaginary friend!

[–] kat_angstrom 16 points 5 months ago

What a vapid exercise in marketing

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

I know these tech bros are just jerking each other off, I don’t need to see their wank material.

[–] Etterra 6 points 5 months ago

Let's ask give a big round of applause to drlttæny vvhitìher!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Same nonsense as Miss Universe and others.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Thay are all just as shit, no need to single this one out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

Simps don’t want to feel left out. They need to see obtainable women in a contest for once.