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[–] TwoGems 183 points 1 year ago (18 children)
Kathy Berden, 70, of Snover 
William (Hank) Choate, 72, of Cement City 
Amy Facchinello, 55, of Grand Blanc 
Clifford Frost, 75, of Warren 
Stanley Grot, 71, of Shelby Township 
John Haggard, 82, of Charlevoix 
Mary-Ann Henry, 65, of Brighton 
Timothy King, 56, of Ypsilanti 
Michele Lundgren, 73, of Detroit 
Meshawn Maddock, 55, of Milford
James Renner, 76, of Lansing 
Mayra Rodriguez, 64, of Grosse Pointe Farms 
Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw 
Marian Sheridan, 69, of West Bloomfield 
Ken Thompson, 68, of Orleans 
Kent Vanderwood, 69, of Wyoming 

lol it's all boomers and cusp Gen X/boomer

[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Sadly, they'll all be found guilty but too old and white to actually go to prison for their crimes.

[–] Tedesche 8 points 1 year ago

Beat me to it. This is exactly what I think will happen.

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[–] danc4498 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All cocksuckers on Medicare and social security and probably bitching about socialism.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Rose Rook, 81, of Paw Paw

Please tell me that is a real place

[–] FlyingSquid 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Michigan has a Hell, so there's no reason it can't have a Paw Paw.

[–] Drunemeton 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I’ve been there. When it SNOWED!

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[–] fubo 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A pawpaw is a real fruit, related to the cherimoya.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asimina

[–] TwoGems 8 points 1 year ago

"Mooom! Paw paw from Paw paw's trying to destroy our democracy again!"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Prime age to get their information from Facebook.

[–] gAlienLifeform 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Probably not a great age to be starting a fourteen year prison sentence at, but they should have thought about that before trying to overthrow our democracy I guess

[–] TwoGems 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Cosmonauticus 8 points 1 year ago

To be fair the first two generations in this meme were raging alcoholics who beat the shit out of their kids and wives. Oh and the whole racists as fuck part.

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[–] Hextic 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This same generation kept repeating shit like "don't believe everything you read on the internet" back in the dial up days. Good advice I took to heart.

Now my own mother believes AOC wants to ban cows because they fart a lot.

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[–] dhorse 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am pretty disappointed in the Gen X generation. I really thought we were going to be a lot more open minded and accepting of people than we have turned out to be.

[–] stringere 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Think of all the people you've known who were open minded and accepting and how small the number of them seemed compared to the majority when we were growing up. Know that a lot of those people probably went on to inspire those qualities in others and raise their kids to value those things. I've seen mainstream society come a long way from my childhood in the 80s and teens in the 90s.

I agree, I had a lot more hope for Gen X but we were up against the juggernaut of the boomer voting bloc. As those selfish fucks age out we're finally looking at the possibility of righting the ship.

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[–] el_cordoba 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I blame dementia. I have a parent that's still a Trump supporter. It's as if they've lost the ability to use reason. I am pretty sure Trump could shoot them in the face and they'd still vote for/support him.

[–] sunbytes 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's theories about the lead from leaded petrol doing a lot of brain damage before it was taken out.

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[–] Arsenal4ever 11 points 1 year ago

He said in 2015 that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and people would still love him. One thing I will say is that Trump realized he could easily grift people like your parent. I am sorry, BTW. It sucks.

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[–] Oderus 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can't wait to see it all play out. You just know these people won't accept responsibility and will blame others for their actions. I swear if they were 16-17 I wouldn't be surprised but GOD DAMN, they're all over 55 with 2 being over 80.

[–] AssPennies 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"We were just told to show up and sign this paper. If we had any information about it being untoward or illegal, we would not have done it"

That's Ms. Michele Lundgren making excuses already. Like, you thought it was totally legal to pretend to be electors to subvert an election? Come on.

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[–] Squorlple 53 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Since I expect I’ll have to suffer several members of the conservative hive-mind moaning about this tomorrow, I did some quick research beforehand:

Here is a list of those who are charged.

This video shows the Republicans trying to enter the MI Capitol.

At ~35 seconds in, several people claim to be the state’s electors.

In no particular order, I think I have identified the following:

The woman between the orange beanie and red mitts at 60 seconds looks to me like MI GOP Chair Meshawn Maddock, who is among the charged.

The woman in the bottom left corner of the screen at 3 minutes and 19 seconds in looks to me like Michele Lundgren, a GOP former nominee for a House seat in Detroit which she lost in a major landslide, who is among the charged.

The woman near the bottom right of the screen at 3 minutes and 7 seconds in looks to me like MI GOP Vice chairperson Marian Sheridan, who is among the charged.

Papa Smurf on the left at 1 minute and 1 second looks to me like GOP member Ken Thompson, who is among the charged.

The woman in the bottom left at 1 second in looks to me like GOP member Rose Rook, who is among the charged.

My source for the individuals’ roles within the MI GOP

The actual state electors are listed here

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

At what point should we declare the MI Republican party to be insurrectionists and disband that organization? It's not like it was some low ranking officials.

[–] Godric 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If it makes you feel better, the Michigan republican party is effectively dead. They lost every branch of government, their funding is pretty much dried up, they had abandon their longstanding headquarters and are now based out of a PO box.

Their former leadership is gone, and now they're run by an actual crazy person with a degree in Christian apologetics who insists the majority of voters are murderers for codifying the right to an abortion via ballot. They were an anti-vaxxer before covid, they think abortion is a "satanic ritual" and that yoga is a "demonic ceremony".

Just a week or two ago they made the news when two members got into a fistfight during a meeting, they're a circus.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

After we talk about bOtH SiDEs for awhile and then completely forget about it.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Which "we" are you talking about? I've already declared the whole Republican party a terrorist organization, but my declarations don't carry much weight.

[–] agedbeef 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] gAlienLifeform 43 points 1 year ago (1 children)

About 30 months later than it should have happened, but late is better than never!

[–] AFKBRBChocolate 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed, though it's actually pretty fast for this kind of thing

[–] gAlienLifeform 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, it's totally normal for prosecutors to wait over two years to bring forgery charges and just let the suspects go about freely doing as they please that whole time, it's not like anyone in recent history has been forcibly detained by a police officer and been suffocated to death by that officer's knee being placed on their neck for an extended period of time after they tried to submit some dodgy paperwork or anything /s

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

For better or for worse, the judicial process in this country moves very slowly. The higher the stakes, the slower it moves. This is quite certainly a high-stakes case.

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[–] MsPenguinette 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Another of the 16 electors, Michele Lundgren, said she was distraught over the charges and she questioned what evidence prosecutors had.

The 73-year-old Detroiter said she had simply received a call on Dec. 13, 2020, to be in Lansing the following day. While there, Lundgren signed what she thought was a sign-in sheet, she said.

“We signed a blank piece of paper," Lundgren said. "And that’s all can tell you."

This is going to be a super entertaining trial

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

does she do whatever the phone says? If I were to call her and ask for $10,000 she'd pay me?

[–] Wilziac 13 points 1 year ago

Well she is the prime demographic for phone scams... so yeah, probably.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lmao. 16 assholes about to get a big government dicking. Those forgery charges are 14 years a pop lol.

[–] MegaUltraChicken 34 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The dildo of consequences rarely arrives lubed.

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[–] gameboyhomeboy 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine being dumb enough to commit a felony for a billionaire who hates you.

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[–] ChihuahuaOfDoom 20 points 1 year ago

Good, fuck em.

[–] AlaskaMan 20 points 1 year ago

Good. They’re all traitors who violated our Constitution and attempted to subvert democracy for their cult leader. Throw the book at every single one of them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is good and proper.

These people are not “political prisoners”. They were part of an attempted coup, and should absolutely be prosecuted to the maximum extent that the law prescribes.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

Throw the fucking book at these old decrepit humans. Let them rot.

[–] Usernameblankface 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So, was it their job to be electors and they falsified something, or was it not even their job and they lied about that plus falsified something?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When states count the vote in a federal election they send a group of people called electors to the national congress. Those electors then cast that state's electoral votes according to state law (usually winner-take-all but a couple states split proportionally). These people falsely claimed to be the electors from Michigan, selected according to Michigan law, and they intended to infiltrate the meeting of the electoral college and fraudulently cast Michigan's electoral votes for Trump, who lost the state of Michigan in a free and fair election and was, by Michigan law, entitled to zero electoral votes. In doing so they also intended to deny Joe Biden the electoral votes of Michigan, which he had rightfully earned by winning a free and fair election.

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[–] paraphrand 8 points 1 year ago

Wisconsin next please.

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