The trumpanzees would lose their fucking minds. Trump could choke to death on Putin's dick on live TV and it'd still be pitched as some kind of deep-state hit job.
There would likely be a lot of violence.
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I know some other Republican sycophant will fill the vacuum, but please don't tempt me with a good time. I want to live long enough to throw an obituary party.
We actually did that in Ireland when Thatcher kicked the bucket.
Ding dong
The witch is dead.
Encore when J.K. Rowling and Jacob Rees-Moog receive their tickets to hell.
I feel like that's just an excuse to let hitler-like people to what the fuck they want.
While I wouldn't wish death on anyone, it would probably be one of the better things to happen to American politics this year, as you'd essentially be beheading the MAGA movement - it is unlikely that anyone else could retake those reigns with how centred the movement is around Trump specifically, man's practically worshipped like a new Jesus to them.
While I wouldn't wish death on anyone
The world would be a genuinely better place if Trump fell over dead before the election, I want a better world, therefore I DO wish the worst stroke medically possible upon Donald Trump.
I don’t want someone to go kill him, but I absolutely wish that he would drop dead without the slightest moral reservation.
My only concern is that however he were to die, everyone on the right would go full conspiracy theory and blame it on the left, and somehow we’d be worse off in ways I can’t imagine right now. The right always seems to find a way to make me regret any turn of events that I thought was good.
It would be temporary chaos like when the lich king died and the scourge went berserk
The rest of the world breathes a sigh of relief.
We kinda have a lot riding on the US remaining a relatively incorrupt democratic superpower.
Putin is very obviously angling to start a world war with the US as a useful-idiot ally if trump gets even a day in office again.
Putin doesn't want a world war, he is more interested in having the west just roll over and letting him retake the former countries of the Soviet Union
Of course, but that pretty much can only result in a world war
Do you really think he stops once the former Soviet countries are under his control?
If Trump gets elected, the modern world of relative peace ends and we're thrown into chaos and suffering with possibly no easy way back to stability.
Oh I agree with you, I just don't think that a world war is what Putin wants.
That's like saying your boyfriend doesn't want to hit you, you've just not done exactly as he said, so he had to hit you.
I'm sure Putin would be happy if the whole world made him the supreme leader, without a single conflict. But that's not really the way the world works, his actions can have no other outcome than a world war. It's up to the rest of us to prevent this in whatever way possible.
Correct, Putin is behaving like an abusive partner.
He never expected Ukraine and the west to do so well against him, and since we don't have any police to call in this case the abuser won't be taken to jail and keeps fighting.
Like all fascists, he innately assumes the other side won't fight back. Like an idiot child daydreaming about a fist fight.
His cult will vote for him, expecting his resurrection.
Dealey Plaza will be so crowded!
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The Maga movement is definable as a High Control Organization, and Trump is the Prophet.
If he dies one of two things could happen, either 1) a new "great leader" is able to consolidate the base and keep the movement going, or 2) nobody is able to recreate that charisma enough to reform the movement, and as a result the entire thing collapses in on itself.
Trump suddenly dropping dead of old age would make the second very likely, he made a point of making the top echelons of the RNC dangerous to anyone who could make option one happen, because he sees anyone capable of that as a challenger to his authority. The king has no heir.
I genuinely think Trump dying of old age would produce similar results to the Republican Party that the Deaths of JFK and RFK (not the brain worm one) had on the Democratic Party. The fact that his base of support is on the older side would probably add to the despair of the whole thing, being a reminder that their time is similarly short.
I don't think we'll see very many of the cult snap out of the delusion, but we'd certainly see some have rather public breakdowns facing the absolute nothingness their devotion has wrought.
At best, they got a high for a few moments and returned to the state of despair they had been previously chasing the high to escape, at worst, they've lost all their support system to the sheer disgust they've felt over the cultist's indoctrination, leading to the wam bam combo of the despair in combination with inescapable loneliness, remember, a lot of these people are really just the "make the kids come back to thanksgiving again!" caucus.
I don't think we'll see infighting or civil warring among the ranks of the Redcaps, what we'll see is people who think that expressing grief makes you weak attempt to cope with what they'll see as their messiah just dying unceremoniously from the same hand that's reaching closer and closer for them every day, and before they got the rewards of vindication they had been promised by him.
Wow, i would like you to describe more in detail what these people think, your depiction so far is very clear
They're basically all children who never grew up. They're nostalgic for when they were young and the world wasn't as scary feeling, and decades of being told that those times weren't the best for everyone have prompted them to backlash and double down. Trump is their messiah because he made them feel unjudged wanting to return to their childhood times of simplicity. Another reason why him dying of old age would really put a lot of these people well into the depressive mindset.
I mockingly refer to this dynamic as them clinging to him having made them feel safe to say the N word, but having dealt with my own missing my childhood brought on by my mom hitting a very solid old people decline milestone, I've learned to be understanding if not sympathetic to what's actually going on here.
Of course over tens of millions of cult members there are other parts in each individual, undiagnosed narcissism being the biggest one, hence why they're all so furious about the idea of their kids no contacting them over their beliefs. There's also the despair factor of the opiate crisis and the abandonment of exurban and rural settlements by young folks.
When these people see young folks getting horny for a highly developed high speed rail network, what they see is young people conspiring to not even have to come visit when passing through on a road trip anymore, and making city roads less accomodating to trucks and minivans in favor of pedestrianization just rubs salt in the wound by making them unable to go confront them for never calling anymore.
Woah thank you so much for taking the time. I really struggle to understand this people. This does make sense.
The narcissistic aspect really nails it. These are people who cannot, are probably literally incapable of, seeing past themselves and their own feelings and views. I love how you phrased it as "they see is young people conspiring to not even have to come visit."
I'm sure NYT and CNN would have a laundry list of reasons of why it was bad for Biden.
The truth is it would undermine the main reason to continue supporting Biden. That's also why partisan democrats in Congress conveniently forgot about section 3 of the 14th amendment.
"The Democrats have fielded the only candidate who could lose against Trump, and the Republicans have the only candidate who could lose to Biden."
Liberals completely drop their guard and the republicans put someone up who is actually smart but still follows the far right agenda. Trump is chaotic (inept) evil at best, but the danger is getting lawful intelligent evil in.
Feel like a fair amount are voting Trump cuz he's Trump. Cult of personality minus the personality just falls apart. I think even with someone who was 50 the numbers wouldnt budge a lot owing to that.
There will be a party that lasts for 4 years!!! Ding Dong The Witch Is Dead.
And more importantly, how would affect LeBron's legacy.
We'll see what happens when I put together my voodoo doll.
The entire would would rejoice. Except for Putin. Fuck that guy.
It'd be a toss-up at that point, depending on who they put up before the election. Maybe Nikki Haley could actually win again Biden? The other non-candidates that ran during the primaries don't seem like they'd fare well. That'd be hilarious if the party most opposed to women's rights were to get the first female president in office. Losing Trump would be a speedbump for Conservatives though, they're moving towards trying to take America down the road of a theocracy, I'm not sure that losing Trump would really stop that, they're pretty much committed to making it happen at some point.
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With either candidate, it all depends on timing.
If either candidate dies before their respective conventions, the Republicans on 7/15 to 7/18 and the Democrats on 8/19 to 8/22, then the convention becomes an open convention, with deals being made to select a new candidate.
If one of them dies after the convention, it's up to the party to pick a replacement, likely the VP candidate, but it doesn't have to be.
If the winner of the election dies after the election, it gets incredibly messy, again, depending on the timing.
There's a good novel on that hypothetical called "The People's Choice".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_People%27s_Choice_(novel)
Probably get a different candidate.
I think it kind of depends on how he dies.
Massive ugly heart attack on live tv is different than someone shooting him in the head, and those are both different than like a bombing at one of his rallies.
We aren't in such a nice timeline.
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