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[–] [email protected] 187 points 3 days ago (6 children)

I'm sorry but when I read "pride month is defeated" in the context of a heterosexual engagement my mind immediately assumes the dude is a closeted homosexual who chose her as his beard instead of coming out. And this is how he "defeated pride". By choosing a heteronormative lifestyle over his actual preferences.

The most optimistic scenario my head can come up with to make the sentence make sense would be that she's bisexual and because of him she chose to commit to a heteronormative relationship.

In any way, for a lack of a better term, putting your engagement in context of defeating pride makes you look quite gay.

[–] Buddahriffic 32 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think the same about anyone who fears LGBT+ trying to convert their kids like they believe someone can be convinced to be gay rather than just convinced to accept their sexuality.

Like I don't see any problem with being gay but it's not for me. I sometimes think dating would be easier if I was bi, but it's about as appealing as knowing it would be easier to fill my stomach if I ate sawdust.

So it's very telling when someone talks about gays tempting them or that they worry about a gay agenda of turning everyone gay like it's a realistic possibility.

[–] Drivebyhaiku 4 points 2 days ago

A lot of the fear of "conversion" really feels like parents getting ornery because someone might "damage their property" by telling them that being gay is perfectly fine. They want to have the whole heterosexual experience they had but lived vicariously all over again through someone they can pilot through life like a little low maintenance automoton. They want to narrow the field of choices to the ones they want.

You see it expressed all over the place. If you choose not to want kids or marry, pick a career they don't understand or would pick for themselves they tighten the thumbscrews. So often they don't love their kids they just love what they represent... Genetic legacy or bragging rights or a vehicle for constant validation. Being LGBTQIA+ is a threat because that represents paths that they would not have chosen. They can't empathize or desire it...

But estrangement has always been a thing. Kids always become adults and adults always have choices.. but we never forget what it was like to be a kid without autonomy. One day that kid is going to be able to make their own choices and there's not a thing their parent can do about it. I love and value my parents because they always treated me like my own person. I always consider their advice seriously and give them a high priority. Fillial piety is no burden when it feels like returning the support and love. It never sits uneasy. I know a lot of people who struggle because they are biologically programmed to have a bond but they just can't because the choices their parents made amd continue to attempt to make for them has left lasting damage.

[–] chiliedogg 31 points 3 days ago

Those who hate homosexuals and see them as the "other side" often believe that homosexuals view heterosexuals with the same malice.

Gay people know they're not the norm, and don't feel threatened by straight folk unless. They feel threatened by bigots.

[–] Snapz 21 points 3 days ago

100%

NOT TODAY NATURAL URGES FOR FIRM MAN CHESTS!!!

[–] Psythik 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yeah I seriously I was about to say, as a pansexual, this guy is triggering every sensor on my gaydar, big time. He'd be a lot happier if he would just embrace who he is.

[–] captainlezbian 12 points 3 days ago

Yeah either of those scenarios makes me think one of them is eventually turning back to gay sex. Sure bisexuals can have lifelong monogamous relationships with people of a different gender and they often do it happily, but how happily do they tend to do it with people bragging about how they defeated their partner’s queerness?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The most optimistic scenario my head can come up with to make the sentence make sense would be that she's bisexual and because of him she chose to commit to a heteronormative relationship.

If that was the case she should be pissed that this was his reflection

[–] xantoxis 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She should be pissed in any scenario. You propose to your partner, you post a photo, and then you put ANYTHING other than I LOVE MY FIANCEE in your post? That sucks, dude.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago

Unless your fiancee is also a homophobic bigot as a central component to her personality, then she's probably OK with it.

[–] raynethackery 111 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wrapping your celebration up in hatred. Classy.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Fucking seriously. What the actual fuck is wrong with these people?

I hate propagandists with every single fiber of my being, more than I hate absolutely anything in the entire universe, and yet I rarely think about them unless something specific comes up.

These assholes just love to hate all the time.

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[–] papafoss 142 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I don't understand why anyone would want to tie an engagement to their politics. Politics was literally not even a thought when I got engaged. That man has got issues!

[–] samus12345 43 points 3 days ago

Sometimes I try to visualize smug, snarky comments like this if it were about something I believe in. Like, if there were a mixed race proposal and it said "Racism is so defeated," would that be any better?

No, it's cringy as hell. Makes the proposal seem like it's about some agenda rather than loving the person.

[–] ZagamTheVile 43 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd spend way more time worrying about if I actually wanted to be married to a dude named Addison.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I just wonder who this is for. A flex to his church friends or what ?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago

His name has TV in it, so I assume he's just completely dedicated his life to making neo-nazi ragebait

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[–] captainlezbian 64 points 3 days ago

Why would I care if straight people got engaged in June? It’s a lovely time to get engaged.

Pride month can’t get canceled, it’s like Labor Day, if you let it be ceremonial it will, and if you don’t we won’t.

[–] AeonFelis 71 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't boast about "defeating pride" in your engagement photo unless you had to wrestle lions to get her to say yes.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 6 points 2 days ago

Maybe he DID defeat a pride of lions but he accidentally posted the wrong photo.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gay people, please keep being who you are. While I was never naturally inclined to fear or hate the LGBTQ+ crowd, getting to know many of them as coworkers and friends helped me to truly understand them. And unlike people who would post hate speech on social media to politicize their own wedding I have never met LGBTQ+ people that cared I was white, male, or straight.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

No one was ever naturally inclined to fear or hate LGBTQ+ people. It's nurture all the way down.

[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 days ago (4 children)

You know, I always thought this "gay agenda" thing was ridiculous. They only want equal rights and "be left alone" essentially, right?
But seeing this, they actually seem to successfully infiltrate the conservative mind... so maybe there is something to it? O_o

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (15 children)

I'm sorry if I'm spilling the beans here but: Gay agenda = be happy

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh god, please, no! Everything but that!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

If people are happy, who will make our memes???

[–] hypnicjerk 13 points 3 days ago

😵‍💫 YOU ARE HELPLESS TO RESIST A GAY OLD TIME 😵‍💫

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

All you have to do to infiltrate their minds and live rent free for a few months is open with “the libs want you to…” and just say whatever comes to mind. It’s rather easy.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"The libs would hate it, if you gave me money. We gotta own the libs."

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Gay sex is on those conservative minds every month. Probably most minutes as well.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] barsquid 11 points 3 days ago

I always imagine it like a comic: two Repubs steal a gay man's agenda book. They open it to find the secret plot. It says, "lunch with Todd," with a heart around it. The last panel is the Repubs shrieking and panicking.

They definitely have some powerful delusions that they are under attack. Bigotry and Fox News feeding their fear addiction gets them to believe anything (as long as it is hateful).

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago

The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks

[–] RBWells 59 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I am so confused. Did he think he had to marry a man because it's pride month? I can't ever wrap my mind around people who think letting others love who they want to somehow reduces their own freedom to love who they want to.

Congratulations, I guess. May your children be many, and gay.

[–] Ultraviolet 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I assume it's projection. He loses his shit when he's reminded of the existence of gay people, so he assumes everyone else must be the same as him, just with the teams swapped.

[–] bestelbus22 5 points 2 days ago

But why does he lose his shit over it? There must've been an amazing guy in his life at some point he's still not over

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I wouldn't wish that on the children.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 3 days ago (2 children)

With how much time these "macho" conservatives spend thinking about gay people, even when marrying their own wives, it sure does seem like they're hiding something

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Maybe all the macho conservatives need to get gay married to each other to prove that they hate it and aren't gay. It's the only way to be sure.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 3 days ago

Pack it all up. The party's over. Addison just proposed to his girlfriend. How will we ever survive this? Might as well just cancel gayness. Sigh.

[–] yemmly 50 points 3 days ago

This guy wants to be the main character so badly.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't think I've met anyone who would attend pride that would have any issue with him getting engaged to this girl.

They'd probably cheer.

Pride isn't about gays as much as people think, yes, a lot of the LGBTQ+ folks show up with their gender and sexual preferences basically hanging out in the open for all to see, and that's the point. Everyone I've talked to is all about being proud of who you are. Straight, gay, bi, lesbian, trans, queer, whatever. Be you. Pride is more about being who you are without prejudice, not some anti straight LGBTQ+ rave.

This guy could have proposed in the middle of the main stage at pride and gotten cheers from people.

Sir, your proposal didn't defeat shit. Good luck in your future.

[–] captainlezbian 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Eh, it’s more that pride is a rejection of the shame we’ve been taught to feel. But then you get into the fact that we aren’t telling straight people to be ashamed, we’re telling bigots that if anyone should be ashamed it’s them

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[–] dogsnest 8 points 2 days ago

I feel so, so sad for the fianceé.

She needs to run. Quickly. Faster!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

Makes me think of the scene in Letterkenny where all of the Christian church dudes are on Grindr.

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