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[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)
  1. It's a very progressive district, that's how she got elected in the first place. This is not a surprise.

  2. I bet my politics fit closer to the other guy, but I'd still vote for AOC between the two because she has a national influence and disproportionate power in the Caucus. If you're actually voting to influence Congress towards helping your district in particular, AOC might get that done even if it's secondary to her national political project. Some moderate guy in a safe D seat would absolutely never get anything for your district.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

In the rest of the Western world, AOC would be considered a moderate.

[–] RampageDon 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to the US where the left is still right of center

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[–] Syrc 1 points 2 days ago

Would she? I’m not that informed on her politics but I think Bernie supported her, and Bernie is definitely a progressive even by rest-of-the-world standards.

[–] Veraxus 60 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Moderate? Marty Dolan is a full-blown conservative. Why do we keep pretending like being a Democrat means you can't be a conservative? The DNCs entire top brass is conservative. It's a conservative party by objective international standards.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because the Overton window in the United States has many people viewing fascists as friends and anyone further left than center right as "extreme left wing socialist communist Nazi terrorists".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I hate it when ignorant people conflate Nazis and communists. I have argued with so many dumb people who think that the Nazis were a Socialist party, when the exact opposite is true. These people probably think that the DPRK is democratic, too.

[–] thesporkeffect 2 points 1 day ago

Well if'n it weren't properly a democracy how comes that 'ere Kim fella put it in the name, huh?

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago (7 children)

I hope people stop believing the bullshit that’s trying to get progressives to not vote or to vote for 3rd parties. Progressives absolutely can win democrat tickets, and that’s exactly why there’s so much propaganda trying to convince people otherwise. Progressives have a lot of political power right now, and the whole system can swing left if people don’t just give up. Progressives giving up is the only play the right has.

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 4 days ago (12 children)

Despite his efforts, Dolan’s message did not gain enough traction. His campaign, funded largely by personal loans, couldn’t match Ocasio-Cortez’s $8 million war chest.

You people are living in an oligarchy and "who has more money for this season" being a perfectly normal news bit outside of popular sports is completely insane.

[–] barsquid 23 points 3 days ago

That's because billionaires have purchased SCOTUS. The outcome of a single court case has allowed unlimited money from whomever into election campaigns.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 days ago (2 children)

You realize that "you people" includes you, correct?

Or are the mega rich treated just like everyone else where you are?

If so, where is this magical land of fairness?

[–] Kaput 54 points 4 days ago (20 children)
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[–] [email protected] 46 points 4 days ago (7 children)

I do not life in the US. However because of US hegemony and my country being a suck up to the US i have to follow what is going on there.

But in case there is any doubt. The country i live in, which is Germany is corrupt and authoritarian with a complicit public and private media as well as the "center" parties moving further to the right and helping fascism rise faster than ever before. The "liberal" middle class are to a large extent just self delusional racists and the country will become a fascist hellhole in the next ten years.

So if you have the opportunity, please help spread awareness about all the shit happening here too.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Feels like the whole world is on the same trajectory.

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[–] Snapz 7 points 2 days ago

"No MODERATE CHALLENGERS want to work anymore!!!"

[–] barsquid 45 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Good. Anyone described as a "moderate" in the US is actually a conservative at best. Anyone described as a "conservative" is actually a fascist at best.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago

In the rest of the world. A 66 year old investment banker would be considered right wing

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

An article about an election without any numbers. How tight was the race? How many people voted? We will never know. In fact, the whole article contains no information that wasn't known beforehand. Probably written beforehand and just put online by a timer as the result was not surprising. News media is going downhill faster and faster.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Better source: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-primary-elections/new-york-us-house-district-14-results

Landslide win for AOC. Maybe USA today just didn't want us to know how absolutely not close the race was?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That's exactly it.

The lies in MSM aren't what they say, it's what they don't say.

The best place to see this is at Planet Fitness, or similar place with TVs constantly tuned to all the major outlets. Watch them all at once and observe what each isn't saying.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This sounds like you were going to segue to today's sponsor, Ground News.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I'd actually been wanting to check them out, but now that I have Nebula, nobody is plugging their affiliate links.

[–] reddig33 67 points 4 days ago (8 children)

It amazes me that primaries are held this late in the year. It’s only four months or so until the election.

[–] Ghostalmedia 90 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Only in America. Other counties campaign for a few weeks. The US turns it into a 12 month fund raising and media spectacular, with primaries at the halfway point.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 days ago (14 children)

Why make election season much longer than needed?

Printing ballots can be done quite quickly.

And is 6 months of campaigning really better than 2 months?

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[–] robocall 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Good for her. Sucks that Jamaal Bowman lost though.

[–] retrospectology 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, having to listen to Steve Innskeep gleefully break the news of Bowman's defeat on NPR this morning was not a great way to start the day.

And of course NPR frames it as confirmation that voters support genocide, not that AIPAC uses GOP money to sabotage the Democratic party. Their reporting is getting worse and worse by the day.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 days ago (10 children)
[–] jeffw 21 points 4 days ago

The ones laughing at Bowman’s loss? Yeah, I’m sure they’re crying so hard tonight

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What does "moderate" mean, owned by some corp?

[–] 0110010001100010 76 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yeah:

"We need to freeze the border and send that message to the world to stop the death and casualties along the way," says Dolan. "The Republicans are right on this issue. But that doesn’t make me a Republican. No party is right on every issue."

On his campaign website, Dolan who has served as managing director at banks including Lehman Brothers, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase, puts the city’s current plight thus: “Bail reform a disaster, the National Guard in the subway, toothpaste locked up in drugstores but criminals running free.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/06/17/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-primary-challenger-marty-dolan/74074419007/

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s hilarious to me that 40 years ago this person would have been solidly Republican. Now he’s a “moderate Democrat”. This term now means “conservative that doesn’t like Trump saying the quiet part out loud”

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[–] Viking_Hippie 35 points 4 days ago

Moderate: Conservative Democrat/I Can't Believe It's Not A Republican

[–] Arbiter 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, frogs are pretty dope.

[–] Arbiter 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is the wrong post, but my point stands.

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