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cross-posted from: https://midwest.social/post/11490010

Update, yes there are snipers:

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[–] LovingHippieCat 134 points 2 months ago (3 children)

"Geez, they're not snipers! They're just using the sniper scope as a telescope! They're not for use as actual snipers! We just gotta use them to look at the evil protestors!""

[–] [email protected] 81 points 2 months ago (1 children)

“These are not weapons trained at your precious little foreheads, they’re Democracy Spreaders™’. You go to class & learn all about democracy & when you exit the building, we use these to spread all that democracy stored up in your brains all over the wall behind you.“

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Managed democracy is a joke too close to reality.

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[–] 1995ToyotaCorolla 27 points 2 months ago

The fact that a rifle is attached to the telescope is just a funny coincidence

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[–] [email protected] 126 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Just a matter of time before we have another Kent State.

[–] PoorYorick 60 points 2 months ago (2 children)

My fear is that the next one will be worse.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 months ago (1 children)

With the artillery that’s out there these days, it’s almost a certainty.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Plus the police which seem even more bloodthirsty

[–] ShunkW 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Police have been taught that the only way to deal with anyone who doesn't immediately comply is through violence. And increased militarization doesn't help. We live in a police state but the narratives created by the ruling class have made people forget it

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

But what if a nuclear bomb drives a truck through the crowd and stabs everyone?? Please disregard the police beating and gassing people over there, think about how horrible it would be if a bad actor made it in there!

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[–] malloc 53 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It was really close at UT. State police, city police, and national guard called in by spineless university president (Jay Hartzell).

Fuck Jay Hartzell. Hope he gets recalled. No golden parachute.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago

The fact that no charges are being filed should result in a strong condemnation and accountability for the administration and the cops. You put everyone in danger when no crime was being committed. There won't be, but there should be.

[–] TokenBoomer 22 points 2 months ago

Don’t forget about Jackson State.

The event happened 11 days after the Kent State shootings

[–] solomon42069 107 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (10 children)

It feels like these protests are going to shape how the governments of the world will respond to mass unrest in the future.

Or in other words - those in charge want the common person to be disempowered, to frame a peaceful protest as an act of terrorism so they can be more aggressive in future.

Hopefully no one on either side does anything stupid.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

These reactions by the US to a student protest are nothing new and the fact they haven’t sent in the army and killed anyone yet shows it’s not even as bad as it historically has been.

Not everything a shithole like America does dictates what the rest of the world does.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_ 23 points 2 months ago

In the future?

Ask any student population in the past who were shot, beaten, tasered, hosed down with water cannons, and jailed what they thought would happen to future protesters.

The shape of silencing unrest, especially anti-war or liberal unrest, hasn’t changed at all. And it will look just the same a decade from now.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If those snipers were to shoot someone, the protests would be twice the size the next day.

Look what happened when Nixon, Reagan and Trump escalated violence in response to protests.

Nixon's in songs for killiing Ohioans.

[–] BreadstickNinja 23 points 2 months ago (4 children)

From Wiki, sadly: "President Richard Nixon, who is criticized in the song, won a landslide reelection in 1972, which included winning the 1972 United States presidential election in Ohio by a margin of over 21%."

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[–] MataVatnik 18 points 2 months ago

This shit has been going on for decades. I went through the Pittsburgh G20 more than a decade ago. Same shit.

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[–] TheCelticPirate 101 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming

We're finally on our own

This summer I hear the drumming

Four dead in Ohio

Gotta get down to it, soldiers are cutting us down

Should have been gone long ago

What if you knew her and found her dead on the ground

How can you run when you know?

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago (8 children)

Never has been. National anthem notwithstanding the United States has always been land of the richest getting what they want.

Hell the entire history of the United States is basically, we want something so we're going to have it, and if there's inconvenient people in the way then those inconvenient people will go away or die. The US had race separation until as recently as the 1960s. Wherever was the freedom?

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[–] profdc9 65 points 2 months ago (12 children)

This seems so incredibly ill-advised. If students become martyred by trigger-happy snipers, these protests will boil over into open violence. Imagine thousands of videos flooding social media in an instant showing student corpses. I fear that gasoline has been poured and matches are being lit everywhere.

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[–] wolfeh 62 points 2 months ago

What is it with Ohio and murdering college protesters? (See: Kent State)

[–] zik 54 points 2 months ago (2 children)

We should treat them like snipers? ie. We should rush them and neutralise the threat they pose?

[–] misterundercoat 60 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Rocket jump up there and disrupt them, that's your job as a soldier

[–] Bdtrngl 20 points 2 months ago (2 children)

As a former pyro main: w+m1 with a back burner.

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[–] Windex007 47 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I mean, obviously question: how does one treat them as if they are?

(Make them say the quiet part out loud)

[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 months ago (6 children)
[–] rigatti 34 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If everyone's a sniper, we're all safe.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 months ago (7 children)

That's literally how it works, and the Black Panthers proved it a long time ago. The cops stay peaceful when the protesters are heavily armed and heavily organized, because cops are fucking cowards who don't want an actual fight

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Reposting this because it’s relevant here too: A scenario like this is what led to the formation of the Black Panthers during the civil rights era, and subsequently led to gun control laws being started by republicans. During the civil rights protests, people quickly realized that peaceful protests were violently broken. But heavily armed peaceful protests had police nervously watching from across the street.

Because police had no qualms about firing into an unarmed crowd to get people to disperse. But when the entire crowd is armed to the teeth and can immediately return fire, the police are suddenly okay with watching from afar. This was the start of the Black Panthers; a group who organized heavily armed protests.

When conservative lawmakers saw a bunch of heavily armed black people (and allies) on their front steps, and saw the police unwilling to break the protests, those conservative lawmakers got really fucking sweaty. So instead, they gave the police tools to arrest individual protestors. The Mulford Act was drafted and quickly passed. At the time, it was the most restrictive gun control law the country had ever seen. It was written by Ronald Reagan (yes, the same Ronald Reagan that the right uplifts as a paragon of conservative values,) and was supported by the NRA, (yes, the same NRA that lobbies for looser gun control laws in the wakes of school shootings.)

This gave the police the power to arrest individual protestors after the fact. Instead of firing into the crowd to disperse the protest, they would wait for the protest to end, follow the protestors home, then kick in their front doors while they were having dinner with their families. (Remember all of the “don’t bring your cell phone to protests because police will arrest you a week or two later if your phone was pinged nearby” messaging during the pandemic protests? Yeah…)

This led to the Black Panthers diving underground. They realized what was happening after protests, so they took efforts to guard their members’ identities. They pulled tactics straight out of anti-espionage textbooks. Randomized meeting places, so police couldn’t set up stings ahead of time. Code names, so arrested members couldn’t rat even if they wanted to. Fragmented info, so no one person (even the leaders) could take down the entire operation if busted. Coded messages. Dead drops. Et cetera, et cetera…

We’re on a rocket trajectory straight down that same pipeline now.

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[–] rigatti 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The joke was more an extension of the argument ammosexuals like to make about everyone being safer when everyone is armed. A bit of a non-sequitur, but those are nice from time to time.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Love how the narrative went from “nah those can’t be snipers definitely spotters” to “snipers are commonplace at big events!” once it was confirmed. Also the fact that only msn and snopes have published anything about this (or is that just a search indexing problem?).

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

Can't wait for a headline about them accidentally shooting an innocent person and then admin goes on the defensive, claiming that the snipers were only doing their job. That, or hush the grieving family by either paying them to shut up or flat out erase them by buying off the police.

[–] MataVatnik 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't know why but this amuses me. An amateur can easily hit a target at 200 yards the size of a baseball using a 6.5 Creedmore. These snipers are extremely visible and exposed. I'm guessing an attacker or a mass shooter would probably not be thinking about taking out snipers though.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they felt safe and being seen was the point.

[–] MataVatnik 30 points 2 months ago

True, I guess the point is to make a show of it

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is that bitch wearing a mask to hide their identity?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (25 children)

I think those are to protect from psychos that want to kill the protesters.

Think about it, it would be idiotic for any crowd control “measures” and doesn’t make any sense otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Oh you sweet summer child.

No. The cops ARE the psychos that want to kill the protesters.

Just look at the past century of protests in America and how much “good” cops did vs how many innocents they hurt.

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[–] LaunchesKayaks 19 points 2 months ago

They're just business men with business plans. They're totally not cops.

[–] malloc 18 points 2 months ago

Too many assholes in this country think they are the American Sniper.

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