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submitted 1 month ago by [email protected] to c/aboringdystopia

cross-posted from: https://midwest.social/post/11490010

Update, yes there are snipers:

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[-] solomon42069 107 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It feels like these protests are going to shape how the governments of the world will respond to mass unrest in the future.

Or in other words - those in charge want the common person to be disempowered, to frame a peaceful protest as an act of terrorism so they can be more aggressive in future.

Hopefully no one on either side does anything stupid.

[-] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

These reactions by the US to a student protest are nothing new and the fact they haven’t sent in the army and killed anyone yet shows it’s not even as bad as it historically has been.

Not everything a shithole like America does dictates what the rest of the world does.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

they haven’t sent in the army and killed anyone yet shows it’s not even as bad as it historically has been.

To be worse than Lukashenko is real achivement.

[-] RememberTheApollo_ 23 points 1 month ago

In the future?

Ask any student population in the past who were shot, beaten, tasered, hosed down with water cannons, and jailed what they thought would happen to future protesters.

The shape of silencing unrest, especially anti-war or liberal unrest, hasn’t changed at all. And it will look just the same a decade from now.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

If those snipers were to shoot someone, the protests would be twice the size the next day.

Look what happened when Nixon, Reagan and Trump escalated violence in response to protests.

Nixon's in songs for killiing Ohioans.

[-] BreadstickNinja 23 points 1 month ago

From Wiki, sadly: "President Richard Nixon, who is criticized in the song, won a landslide reelection in 1972, which included winning the 1972 United States presidential election in Ohio by a margin of over 21%."

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] AngryCommieKender 5 points 1 month ago

You can't gerrymander the presidential election. There are no districts in that election.

You can however influence it with bribes, coercion, and intimidation.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

You can't gerrymander the presidential election.

*in countries where voting for president means voting for president, not voting for someone who maybe will vote for president

There are no districts in that election.

States.

You can however influence it with bribes, coercion, and intimidation.

True.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Yes. That was the election Nixon was actively cheating in, given that the Watergate commission was able to trace it right up to the president.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yes but it would be nice if the government would listen to us before someone dies.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It would totally be nice. That's why it's enshrined in the first amendment that you have the right to petition your representatives for the redress of grievances. Sadly, they do not act on those petitions (Professor Lessig has studies, and crabby calls and letters to your Senator have a net zero effect) which how protests escalate to civil disobedience (to sabotage and eventually civil war).

But it's interesting how quickly police are turning to anti-riot responses, and our government officials are supporting them. It's noted in COIN (counter insurgency) that brutality against protests only increases public sympathy and support for the movement (which has been consistent with incidents in the past decade, the US unrest and protests after the killing of George Floyd in 2020 being a run of examples.) I suspect it's less 4D chess and more like Trump being angry and wishing to assert his authority.

But our officials, the plutocrats they serve and law enforcement all regard the US Public as the enemy, and have been consistent about it since the 9/11 attacks. It's one of the factors that's been driving us towards civil war, or the end of our democratic features and one-party autocracy.

[-] MataVatnik 18 points 1 month ago

This shit has been going on for decades. I went through the Pittsburgh G20 more than a decade ago. Same shit.

[-] Fredselfish 11 points 1 month ago

No one should allow their children to attend that school. Everyone protesting should unenroll and switch to better school.

Also the administration should be fired and arrested for allowing school shooters on their fucking roof. What the fuck.

[-] piecat 4 points 1 month ago

They don't really have say. Blame the state government.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They asked police to come on campus and forcefully end the protests.

[-] ElmerFudd 7 points 1 month ago

You can always count on a demented righty, often an off-duty cop, to show up dressed as a lefty to light a fire, break a window, or shoot someone. That's why they're always using that exact accusation against leftists, because they're actually doing it.

[-] TokenBoomer -1 points 1 month ago
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