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[–] chemical_cutthroat 130 points 9 months ago (6 children)

I did this before cellphone and any sort of digital maps. It was hell. I memorized my city, that wasn't the hard part. The hard part was the people who didn't have their houses properly labeled with their address. Bonus points if they left their porch light off, as well.

"Why is my pizza cold?"

"Because I had to use complex mathematics to derive your house number among all of the unnumbered houses on your street."

[–] [email protected] 39 points 9 months ago (2 children)

”Because I had to use complex mathematics to derive your house number among all of the unnumbered houses on your street."

Wouldn’t even be able to do that in the neighborhood I grew up in. They numbered the houses in the order they were built/the lots were purchased and that wasn’t often next to each other lol. So 64, 67, 88, 90 are next to each other for instance.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Wasn’t on any sort of grid pattern either. The roads just kinda meandered around willy nilly and would sometimes loop back on itself with random “bridge” connecting roads which I know isn’t extremely uncommon but definitely added to the difficulty of navigation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Ahh yes, you grew up in a west coast subdivision. I am assuming either a late 60s to early 80s split level or a slightly more upscale true two story neighborhood, where every house is one of either two models, or a mirror image of those models to create the illusion of variation.

It is always funny, the first time you go to a friend's house and use the bathroom, their mom will offer to show you, but you would just be like, "I know where it is."

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (15 children)

The misnumbered/not numbered houses is still a big issue. GPS can only be relied on to get you in the general area, and even then sometimes it points you to the middle of a field.

My real gripe is apartments. People will often fail to give you the apartment number and even if they do, every single complex has their own numbering system and layout. There is one complex near here where the signs on the buildings are completely illegible at night due to the lights above them casting shadows. I hate having to go there.

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[–] MIDItheKID 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I delivered pizza for a few years in my early years, and poorly lit addresses were the absolute worst. I was delivering in the pre-smartphone but post mapquest era, and we had a computer in the shop with a touch screen (which was crazy at the time) map on it so you could figure out where we were going. But God forbid you ended up on a one way street looking for an address that was poorly labeled or unlit and you got somebody behind you laying on their horn... At some point I bought a 1000 candle spotlight that I used at night, and that got me pulled over several times because people would call the police about "a slow driving car shining a spotlight out of its window"... Like... For fucks sake. I'm just trying to deliver some pizza.

With that said, while working I smoked a bunch of weed, listened to a bunch of good music, and generally got tipped well so... It was a good time.

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[–] mudmaniac 85 points 9 months ago (8 children)

In the before times, I was uniquely blessed with the ability to decipher these paper maps. I was seen as a god among men.

Alas, with the advent of GPS and navigation I am but a mere relic of days gone by, regaling my days of glory to whomever should have the ears to listen.

[–] AnUnusualRelic 11 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I find it interesting that many people are apparently no longer able to grok maps at all. Even on their phones.

If there isn't a blue dot, they have no idea where they are. Nor how to go anywhere that isn't linked by a blue line.

It's a lost art indeed.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Ohhh wise one, tell us one of your many tales.

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[–] dejected_warp_core 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

I used to be amazed by the idea that there were people that couldn't do this. A good map/atlas has an index of street names and what pages grid cells they're on, and you can trace any familiar road trip with your finger (or a highlighter if you must).

Now I know that some people have a lot working against them. Some can't visualize things in their head, have no clue which way North is, or imagine what their current location resembles on a 2D map. There's also a kind of "navigation sense" that some people have and/or learn where your perception of space is in constant comparison to near and distant landmarks, even when indoors. People that can do these things are not afraid of liminal spaces, can easy find hidden rooms in structures, know exactly how big their car is, can improvise new routes between distant locations with ease, and being lost is a temporary problem at worst.

Edit: I had an ex that had very poor spacial perception, so that's a thing too. There was an argument over whether or not a moving box would fit through a doorway when carried. Critical thinking aside, a complaint was made when seeing the box sitting alone, packed, in the middle of an otherwise empty room. From outside the room, this person was unable to accurately compare the box's size in relationship to the doorway's dimensions, and insisted it was too big to leave the space. It was as if their mind was unable to pull together enough context to get an accurate frame of reference. I think this spacial perception ability applies to navigation as well, and may explain why some people struggle with it.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I guess I'll take comfort knowing it's still a useful skill for some video games... but even those are becoming increasingly simplified

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least it'll come in handy when society collapses.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah i never looked into getting any kind of delivery job solely due to the idea I'd need to be able to find my way around the town I've lived in my entire life. I could get lost going to the grocery store and it hasn't moved in, like, two decades.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I grew up in a time when you had to remember things, like where things were. In fact, for decades, I managed to do that. Suddenly, in 2007, I suddenly forgot where everything on the entire planet was.

Crazy!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My wife likes to give me shit for not using GPS, instead commiting directions to memory and then going (with mixed results). But, I have a better handle on where a lot is, so, checkmate atheists.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago

The only place of feel bad about getting lost is in Manhattan because the streets are numbered, or in my neighborhood in Brooklyn because of how long I’ve lived there. Everywhere else?

“Siri: give me transit directions to X,” then I pop in my AirPods and listen to a podcast while Siri tells me where to go!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And now they use door dash and it takes two hours to arrive cold and spit on.

[–] moistclump 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

And cost you more in fees and tips than the increased cost of the food itself.

[–] fidodo 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I rotate delivery apps so they constantly send me coupons. The coupon doesn't actually save any money over the restaurant cost but basically cancels out the delivery fee.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They decided a long time ago people will refuse to do the math.

[–] slaacaa 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

But the companies running these softwares now make a huge profit, while the restaurants and delivery drivers earn less. So it’s better this way for their billionaire investors

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They were distant allies to the masters ..... Taxi cab drivers ... who literally hold mental maps of the entire city they worked in and they could figure out how to get to where in ten different ways without the help of any paper map or digital system.

[–] tipicaldik 33 points 9 months ago

I drove a taxi and dispatched for a couple of years back in the mid '80s. For ease of use, Street Guides were a drivers best friend, because they just gave you concise directions from the closest main road. For instance, if I wanted Elm street, I would find it quickly alphabetically, and it would tell me something like "Runs south from Main St, two blocks east of First Ave." The driver would mainly just need a decent understanding of the main roads and how the numbering system for addresses worked, and they could just flip through it pretty quick without having to spread out a big map. The whole city fit into a neat little paperback book.

[–] niktemadur 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

London and Tokyo taxi drivers are the apex... the map apex... the mapex (pronounced MAY-pex)?

"Take me to that hotel that's in front of a pub, I think it's called The Fox & Hounds... I think it's between a park and a Tube station", and the crazy bastard could figure out exactly where you meant, even though there are multiple pubs named The Fox & Hounds in London.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Take me from where I am to where I'm not

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The taxi driver knows where he is at all times. He knows this because he knows where he isn't.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 9 months ago

We had a map of our delivery area on the wall. Maps like this have an index of street names on one side, with XY coordinates to find them on the map. Before leaving with the pizza, you look at the map (if you weren't familiar with the area) and get an idea how to get there. The longer you work there, the less you need to look at the map.

[–] DannyMac 33 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The 30 minutes or it's free deal really became dangerous and was discontinued. Still, learning the city map by heart and combing through unlabeled houses was impressive.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

"unlabeled houses?"

What kinda neighbourhood did you grow up in where people couldn't even bother to put a number on their house?

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[–] dejected_warp_core 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The thing to keep in mind here is that each such pizzeria had a specific territory it staked out. There was an effective radius from every location, and the drivers were often very experienced with that chunk of town. I also recall wall-mounted maps near the phone so they could easily tell the customer to call a closer Domino's or Pizza Hut over if they were out of range. So after a while, you just learn the region, memorize the street names, and off you go. Finding a house number was the only real risk.

Advertising was also typically done door-to-door with flyers and fridge magnets, along with phone numbers for YOUR local franchise. As a franchise owner you'd have your family or hire some kids to canvas every so often. I suppose that helped with any confusion, but there was nothing keeping you from getting a hold of the wrong number from the phone book or a friend.

With GPS navigation everywhere, I'm betting that drivers can range further than ever before. The calculus is probably more like "google says you're 40 minutes out right now, so no", than "you're not one of our customers."

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[–] aeronmelon 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So long as they could "Avoid the Noid."

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Man what a wind string of events with those advertisements. Someone on a Creative team came up with a silly mascot, ends with pizza shop employees being held hostage at gunpoint.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did that job for a summer. We had a huge map on the wall of our district. Holy shit, what a change.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And these days the waiting time is 45 mins. minimum.

[–] LemmyKnowsBest 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

because population has increased and everyone has become fat & lazy, therefore increased demand for pizza home delivery

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I did this for more than ten years ask me anything

[–] Osito 12 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because the texture allows it to perfectly absorb and mingle with all the detritus between the couch cushions for additional layers of flavor.

[–] frankspurplewings 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Definitely an extremely drunk group of college girls who seemed to be doing some hazing ritual which involved molesting the pizza boy. I'm not 100% sure exactly what was going on, but the person who answered the door had her tits out and woman behind her was on all fours spreading her cheeks (just wearing underwear), slurring something about giving her the tip. I was solicited to pick which one I preferred.

It didn't actually go anywhere. Once I cast my vote their attention moved on to something else and they offered me a shot and a beer (which I took, because college, poor decisions, etc) and they said I could hang out but it was all a bit too sloppy drunk for my taste so I just left mildly confused and slightly horny.

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[–] Shardikprime 11 points 9 months ago

Why is Nicolas Maduro working at an old time Domino's Pizza franchise?

[–] banneryear1868 9 points 9 months ago

Worked pharmacy delivery for years starting in high school, just before smartphones, and I still don't use GPS. Basically just map to nearest main intersection and remember their street name and the one before it.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Big Hiro Protagonist vibes

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's literally the same but now the phone sometimes messes up the delivery too, not just the guy

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (2 children)

They still do that here. Not every Dönerladen has an app, only chains have dedicated apps. Some shops have websites with an online order possibility, but it's mostly calling.

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