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Apple hit with class action lawsuit over iCloud's 5GB limit::A newly-proposed class action lawsuit alleges that Apple has “marked up its iCloud prices to the point where the service...

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[-] [email protected] 131 points 2 months ago

The lawsuit isn't really about the 5 GB free tier, but about being able to use system services like device backups with other cloud providers.

Poorly written headline.

[-] simplejack 36 points 2 months ago

The actual article headline

Apple hit with class action lawsuit over iCloud’s 5GB limit and iPhone backup restrictions

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[-] macattack 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Sometimes it's hard to feel sorry for Apple users given the amount of repeated nickeling and diming they go through,yet make excuses for (as seen in the comments). Definitely shades of battered woman syndrome

[-] NOT_RICK 15 points 2 months ago

Does android offer free storage for cloud backups?

[-] itwasawednesday 21 points 2 months ago
[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Can't iPhone users use Drive?

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[-] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

What abuse?

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[-] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

What!? the company that weaponizes vendor-lockin the most is overcharging for their service!?!?!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

9,99€ per month for 2 TB seems pretty normal to me. Google Drive is the same price iirc, and other providers have similar pricing.

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[-] [email protected] 36 points 2 months ago

I read this article, because it's absurd to make a class action lawsuit about the free tier remaining at only 5GB. Apple has the right to give as much or little away for free.

Instead, the lawsuit is about something a lot more lawsuit worthy: The fact that you cannot backup your iPhone with other cloud service providers, providing an unfair advantage to iCloud. This should definitely be illegal.

Additionally, can we have a lawsuit over excessive storage markups (that are over ~2x the gross margin of the device)? This is also basically pure profit.

[-] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago

“There is no technological or security justification for Apple mandating the use of iCloud for Restricted Files,” the lawsuit reads.

Wouldn't this argument also be true for everything else Apple restricts you from doing? Texting app, browser, Apple music on a home pod, etc? (I don't have a lot of good examples because I don't have an i thing but I'm sure there are more)

[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

This is Apple's face falling brick my brick. The app store was just the start

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[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

I hope they loose this lawsuit and set a precedent that Samsung also has to follow. At least Samsung gives you the choice between onedrive and Google, but still no choice for generic WebDav...

[-] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago

How are you guys reading this article? It took me 5-10mins of unchecking each cookie vendor one by one before I gave up.

Modern internet is a shit show

[-] Evotech 6 points 2 months ago

The ddg browser on my phone just kinda does it automatically

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[-] cheese_greater 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I hope this forces their hand in having to allow other actual e2e cloud services, its legititmately bullshit we even need to have this convo :(

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[-] reddig33 13 points 2 months ago

This is a stupid lawsuit. You can back up your phone locally using iTunes and Finder and the new device app on Windows. You can also back it up using third party software. No one is forcing you to use iCloud.

[-] CM400 6 points 2 months ago

You get a free computer with purchase of an iPhone? Neat!

[-] homesweethomeMrL 6 points 2 months ago

What’s a “computer”?

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

This is an extra service they don’t have to offer. If they wanted to they could just drop the free tier altogether. You have space on your phone and you can back it up to your computer as well. I do t see the point of this lawsuit except “wah, they’re not giving me enough stuff for free!”

[-] [email protected] 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is an extra service they don’t have to offer.

No, they could let you use someone else's service instead, but they've chosen to block that.

you can back it up to your computer as well

According to the article you literally can't

Although based on the comments there, the article may be wrong on that point

[-] stoly 14 points 2 months ago

You can still do backups to your desktop like you used to do, it's just not usually necessary.

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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Amazon Photos works. Dropbox works. NextCloud works. What service are they blocking?

[-] AProfessional 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

iCloud backup is core to the OS, all user settings and app data is there. You can manually do it on a Mac apparently but no other service.

[-] Somethingcheezie 6 points 2 months ago

I paid for a MacOS app to do it. Works great

Syncios or something

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[-] reddig33 6 points 2 months ago

The article is wrong.

[-] Brkdncr 12 points 2 months ago

I hate this the most about my iPhone. I’m currently on my 3rd Apple device, but you don’t get more storage every time you buy one. So if you have an iPhone and an iPad you’re still stuck with 5gb, and it’s shared with you backups and your cloud-based apps like photo sync, message sync. That 5gb is gone pretty quick.

It’s easy enough to sync photos elsewhere, but not messages. So the $1/mo storage upgrade becomes really attractive.

I hope this opens up their backup service but I doubt it.

[-] IamAnonymous 6 points 2 months ago

You don’t need to backup messages to iCloud for it to sync across devices. I have multiple iPhones and iPads on one account and don’t come across this issue because I backup photos to my laptop.

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[-] simplejack 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Apple does let you use any cloud backup service you want… just not for the OS and app preference files. Those go to iCloud, but those are also highly unlikely to hit 5gb.

When you cloud restore with your media backed up to something like Dropbox, this is what happens.

  1. After logging into iCloud, iOS checks iCloud for the apps you had installed, and it downloads the latest compatible versions from the store. Then, iOS pulls down OS and app preferences from iCloud

  2. Launch Dropbox, or similar, to pull down your backed up media and files.

Apple gets no money for storage, but Dropbox gets a check.

[-] sebinspace 6 points 2 months ago

After ten years, I hit 5GB. I upgraded to 200GB.

For $3/month

There are many, many reasons to bash the shit out of Apple until you’re left with applesauce, and this is the one they chose?

Whatever, guys..

[-] cheese_greater 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They need to make it your choice (of compliant options where compliant != neutering for the USgovernment) for the default background running option tho, you're not defending the hero we deserve, only what is forced by their lax regulation

Right now, Apple selectively degrades the experience of effortless syncing thru any other modality than its in-house inferior option. That is wrong and monopolistic and antitrust-worthy action now that the technology is ubiquitous and Applehas the tools to ensure its done consistent with the Apple walled garden gestalt. A gated garden would not be so bad, hell, everybody has one basically

I can't wait till we get all the Europe stuff! And I'm all in on Apple, i just don't gratuitously defend their nonsense (upvoted by the way, im not the naysayer. You raise an important defense that needs to be dismantled)

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[-] stoly 6 points 2 months ago

So they seem to be arguing that Apple isn't spending enough money to offer a free service it never had to offer because reasons.

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