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[–] [email protected] 210 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That’s a weird way of bragging about understaffing leading to overwork, but I guess it explains why they can’t kick those quality issues.

[–] [email protected] 141 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Statements like that are just going to make it easier for the UAW to unionise those plants. Union factory workers don't sleep on the floor.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That does make a compelling campaign slogan. While I assume Musk's statement should not be taken literally, IIRC he made similar statements about Twitter. Shortly after, there were countless reports of how awful it suddenly became to work at Twitter.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

You're actually right, this would look great on a poster. I hadn't even considered that, it was just a statement of fact.

[–] GlitzyArmrest 134 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Spoiler: it won't be $25,000.

[–] givesomefucks 55 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I do t think musk will get his 25 either

In related news, Musk gave Tesla an ultimatum earlier this month: increase his ownership in the company to 25% or he will cut back on its development of AI and robotics The billionaire already owns 13% of the EV giant, or approximately 411 million shares. However, it seems he won't be happy unless he's awarded another 12%.

Another ridiculous thing, the article says this new model might comes without steering wheel or pedals... .his self driving is no where near ready for that, especially since he cheaps out and uses cameras on high end models, the cheap one is going to have even worse cameras instead of the lidar they should all have

[–] SparrowRanjitScaur 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Give me more of the company or I'll destroy the company

[–] harry_balzac 26 points 11 months ago

...or I'll continue to destroy the company

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[–] Ghostalmedia 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This guy has never been able to hit his MSRP goals.

That said, if he can’t ship a crossover for $35k, Volvo-Polestar will eat his lunch with the ex30. And like Telsa, Volvo has markup-free / commission-free purchase options. I got my last Volvo for MSRP. Ordered online with no BS.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And it won't go into production next year. But workers will still be treated like shit.

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[–] JoeKrogan 101 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Because fuck family time ... This dude wants slaves. He can get fucked

[–] Nfamwap 12 points 11 months ago

Old habits die hard

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Lots of interesting articles and research talking about the problem of many CEOs exhibiting psychopathic traits but it being accepted. For example.

https://fortune.com/2021/06/06/corporate-psychopaths-business-leadership-csr/

“Our culture also glorifies and rewards successful leaders who may lie somewhere on the spectrum of psychopathy or who, if not actually psychopathic, nevertheless display traits that psychopathic individuals frequently have. The problem, of course, is that while psychopaths may have a lot of charisma and creativity, they may also lack, as already mentioned, socially important qualities such as empathy and morality.”

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[–] obinice 90 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Damn, he's admitting his company is so close to collapse that everyone will have to literally sleep on the floor there just to try to save the business?

Bold move.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

It worked for Twitter, right…. Right…?

[–] [email protected] 85 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man i don't wanna buy a car made by people who aren't sleeping in a bed. Come on, now.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago

Tesla's quality control is already shit.

Imagine how much worse it could get if the workers are even more sleep deprived.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 11 months ago

Saying we expect our employees to act as slaves, weird flex there Space Karen.

[–] crystalmerchant 48 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wasn't the model 3 supposed to be the affordable version

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago (18 children)

Is $25k affordable? How much are cars? 25k sounds like a fuckload of money.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

For a new car? $25k is a pretty low price, at least in the US. My car was $24k new 10 years ago. It wasn't particularly special then.

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[–] MedicPigBabySaver 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

$25K for a full electric car is the lowest price ever in the U.S.

I paid $21K for a used gasoline Honda Civic coupe just 2 years ago.

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[–] captainlezbian 46 points 11 months ago

But they don’t need a union

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds like a shitty boss. Also, I think OHSA is gonna have a field day with this.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Anyone qualified to work on his production line can work on another. Or many many other mechanical/production roles.

I question anyone who would work those hours, sleep in the facility, accept the oats, and still whine.

[–] GladiusB 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The problem is who is hiring. Tesla's factory is the only big factory in an area where there are not other big car factories. Good luck finding another job in the area of Fremont.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

Understood, but I'm saying ultimately these are skilled, desirable workers who should be seeking new opportunities NOW

[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

Tesla already has the highest accident risk, are they trying to increase their lead?

[–] BeautifulMind 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Welp. It's time for Tesla workers to unionize, and hard

[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Won't happen in Texas. There are so many people in this state convinced that unions are a horrible evil. Then they complain about how their job mistreats them, doesn't pay them enough, etc, etc, etc. You know, all the problems a union fixes. These people here are the very definition of sheeple.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago

Who is this message even for? Not the workers obviously. Does it instill the investors with confidence? "Production is so poorly managed and staffed that we have to rely on people working overtime." Does it increase demand? "Come buy these vehicles assembled by overworked, sleep-deprived line workers, hope it works out if you get in an wreck!" It's entirely for his own ego.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago

This guy probably thinks he's doing his employees a favor by paying them for the work they perform for him

[–] Leviathan 27 points 11 months ago

This is why the simple existence of billionaires is violence. You simply cannot become filthy rich without profiting off of the suffering of others. This motherfucker could pay people enough to never have to even consider sleeping on a factory floor. Hell, he could probably double his workforce and still pay that well and be filthy rich.

[–] Snapz 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Delivered 4 - 8 years later, $25,000 more, 50 mile range, no screen and a radio tuned only to a station where his favorite coward of the moment reads their abhorent tweets

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago
[–] ilmagico 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There are rumors that it could come without a steering wheel or any pedals to lower costs

Ehm what? Full self driving (and self crashing)??

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

Unless they found another legal loophole this will not happen. The reason Tesla can public test their FSD is because, legally, it's only autonomous level 2 and the responsibility falls on the driver. But autonomous level 2 also requires the steering wheel because the driver is supposed to keep their hands on the wheel at all times. No wheel means no level 2 and no level 2 means stricter regulations and stricter regulations most likely means higher costs.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter 23 points 11 months ago

Articles that start with "Elon Musk says..." 😄

This category of articles is getting more and more hilarious recently.

[–] dejected_warp_core 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

"We really need the engineers to be living on the line. This is not sort of an off-the-shelf 'it just works' type of thing," Musk said. "That will be a challenging production ramp […] we'll be sleeping on the line, practically. Not practically, we will be," he added.

Man, can this guy rally the troops or what? With sentiment like this, who needs a pep rally or company retreat? /s

Worst. Boss. Ever.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He does know he can just hire more people and have them work shifts, right?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

i saw a tesla truck today for the first time and it looked stupid. its seriously like something from a 90s 3d tank game

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

There's a concept of paid slaves.

[–] CaptainSpaceman 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ya take 16 tons, whaddya get?

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[–] jordanlund 14 points 11 months ago

Like Musk is going to let his employees sleep...

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

And the conditions are still better than what the collective agreements would require?

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