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[–] reddig33 68 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Surprising that any nation’s currency would be magnetic. Coins are usually made of brass, zinc, copper, silver, etc.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Steel is cheap. Copper, zinc, nickel, brass and especially silver are rather expensive.

Many world coins up to about 10-50c are steel plated copper or similar.

Most of the world considers it unacceptable to have a coin that costs more to manufacture than it is worth, let alone have just the raw materials cost that much. Smaller coins have often been simply removed.

In the US, on the other hand, apparently the zinc industry is able to force the continued expensive existence of the penny.

[–] CosmicTurtle 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The issue with the penny is that they have a powerful lobby. Not many people care enough about them to write their representatives about the issue. Let alone even email them.

Not sure what's keeping the $1 bill around though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Strippers still make bank on dudes slipping a dollar in their g-string.

[–] model_tar_gz 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Dollar coins could make for a lucrative show.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

My mom once told me a story.

Back in her college days, which would have been in like.. idk the 70s? She and her catholic college girlfriends would donate blood and go drinking, because the smaller volume of blood made them get drunk faster.

They would then go to the male dancer strip club, and put quarters in the dancers g-strings to see if they could make it fall down.

She never said whether they succeeded or not..

But coins as tips for dancers are banned in clubs now because they are a major falling hazard. Especially for dancers in nosebleed heals with little ground-contacting surface area. You’ll definitely get tossed out of you try it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I no joke had a stripper respond to me saying I’m out of dollars by saying ‘oh it’s ok honey you can make it hail’

She was hilarious

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

So in Alberta its a common game for the stripper to hold a shot glass or similar in her buttcheeks or in front of her pussy and have people try to get Toonies in the glass (2$ coin, lower values will get you kicked out eventually) winners are rewarded with a fridge magnet or poster with her image.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Single dollar bills are actually useful?

Compare the last time you've used pennies for .57c vs. dollars for $7

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Most of the rest of the world moved the roughly $1 to $2 values to coins rather than bills/notes.

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[–] Tikiporch 4 points 11 months ago

Strip clubs.

[–] raef 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I've noticed that euro coins rust in pools and ponds. Not green copper oxidize, but red iron rust

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It looks like only the 1, 2, and 5c Euro coins contain steel.

[–] raef 7 points 11 months ago

Could be. I meant euro as in the currency. Wishing well pools and ponds—wherever people throw coins—end up a rusty mass. It's hard to tell where it's coming from

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

UK lower value coins (1p, 2p, 5p, 10p) are steel (depending on when they were made) coated in something else.

The higher value coins are not. I assume it's a cost thing.

[–] ABCDE 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Which coins are made of silver? That would be mad.

[–] scottywh 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

US quarters were prior to 1965

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] scottywh 5 points 11 months ago

I'd forgotten that actually but you're right... I'm always on the lookout for the quarters... Maybe now I'll remember to keep an eye out for the dimes, too.

[–] ABCDE 3 points 11 months ago

They were worth a fair bit more than quarters these days. Good to know though!

[–] Possible_EmuWrangler 3 points 11 months ago

The first year Australia made 50 cent coins they were made of some? Silver. The next year they changed the metal used and shape. Roughly speaking a 1966 50c coin is worth $15 in silver.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Kara was effectively stealing 20% of LRT fares over the 13-year period; one in five coins that were fed into the machines by the paying public ended up in his shaving bag, amounting to around 2 million customer journeys. It seems inconceivable that he wasn’t caught sooner.

This really does seem inconceivable. I'm an industry accountant and worked in the safe room counting drawers for a supermarket and a cafeteria. I lose it when I'm not balanced, even $10 on a 200k deposit. How... How was someone not noticing 20%?? Hell he deserves it with the lack of controls in place. Maybe things were different then...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It's the government, it's not their money. Finding the discrepancy is extra work which is kryptonite to government employees.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Its extra work for any employee, the government just doesnt pretend like it's going to reward you like corporate america pretends it will do.

In both cases you just get more work to do, but the latter has better marketing.

[–] Alteon 2 points 11 months ago

Corporate America rewarding you.....lmao. Yeah. I wish.

[–] pigup 14 points 11 months ago

This guy bureaucracies

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's written that they did notice it but were unable to pinpoint the problem and thought it is a software bug. Reminds of a recent story where an actual software bug got post workers in the UK jail time and huge fines because they were accused of stealing that money

[–] sanguinepar 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The Horizon thing? Yeah, that's a massive scandal, absolutely appalling.

For anyone interested, here's just one of the many, many stories about this: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/feb/18/ex-post-office-staff-tell-inquiry-of-stress-of-it-scandal

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There is a pretty good tv series that just came out today about it as well. Mr Bates vs. the Post Office. I just started watching it today. Crazy story. Those poor people. They got fucked royally.

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[–] Perhapsjustsniffit 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is the City of Edmonton. Having worked there the least surprising part of this story is that even when they noticed, instead of investigating further, they wrote it off as an error.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I work in a firm that does accounting and so far we've been accurate to the cent, every single time.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Imagine if he had just bought a few lame apartments and then washed his money as rent. He might never have been caught.

[–] Blue_Morpho 11 points 11 months ago

According to the article, he did. What got attention was when he bought a million dollar house for himself.

His biggest problem was not stopping. He had already banked $2million but kept going. That's like making away with a $2m bank heist and showing back up at the same bank the next day to do it again.

If he had stopped but kept working for several years, he would have never been caught because audits would have lined up while he was still there.

[–] HonoraryMancunian 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

‘There are about 600,000 people living in the city. You have stolen from every citizen, man, woman and child approximately $4 each.’ Associate Chief Justice, A.H. Wachowich commented ahead of passing down the sentence.

Oh no, not four dollars each

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

That's does the math approximately billions of dollars less than corporations take from us every day.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Kara was effectively stealing 20% of LRT fares over the 13-year period; one in five coins that were fed into the machines by the paying public ended up in his shaving bag, amounting to around 2 million customer journeys. It seems inconceivable that he wasn’t caught sooner.

That 20% seems off. Wouldn't that mean the expected income from that thirteen years would only be 10-15 million?

Maybe 20% of fares from machines? Or machines in one station? Or maybe most people didn't use machines?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

Most regular transit users have passes

[–] oij2 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

17.66$ per hour in 1983 is equal to 50$ per hour today which is just a fine salary?

[–] Reddfugee42 3 points 11 months ago

Good question.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago

a capitalist hero

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

let's get this guy working on the climate problem down at NASA.. give him a set of titanium tools and a couple of supercomputers and just see what he comes up with.. outside the box thinking, that's what we need in here..

[–] Perhapsjustsniffit 11 points 11 months ago

Having worked for the city of Edmonton I can tell you the fact that no one realized what was happening and wrote it off as an accounting error is just so....expected. That someone might be stealing from the city is even more expected.

[–] QuarterSwede 11 points 11 months ago

That was a great read! Gotta admit, I’m impressed he was able to continue the scam so long.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Ehhh. Let him keep it. Honestly, he had the patience to do it and nobody clued in for so long that in this case, he won.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

You see, I was picturing something far more mundane with the headline of "stole" coins. I figured it'd be a story about somebody picking up loose change and some jackass claiming that was stealing. After reading through it I still feel for the guy but yeah, that's definitely a crime.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Me taking a coin out of my pocket and looking at both sides

He’s right!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I say good on him.

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