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[–] [email protected] 205 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've singlehandedly caused hp to lose thousands of dollars. People trust my advice and I've lost all trust in hp so I tell people not to waste their money on it.

[–] cm0002 249 points 11 months ago (3 children)

When I got hired to take charge of the IT department, the first thing I did was phase out ALL HP products and then implemented an "Unacceptable and Barred Brands for purchasing" policy with HP right at top.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago

Thank you for your service

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Unfathomably Based

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 11 months ago (11 children)

Don't buy a smart printer. Buy a dumb printer, then plug it into a raspberry pi.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Buy brother laser. It’s more expensive, but it’s worth it long term. They last a real long time and the cartridges last bananas and they don’t care about “official” ink

[–] [email protected] 46 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Straight up when I bought my black and white brother laser printer I got an extra cartridge with it because I didn't expect it to last very long

By the time I finally had to swap it out I couldn't find the extra cartridge I bought with it because it had been so long

Needless to say I'm 3 years and 500+ pages into the second cartridge and happy to have this clunky little printer

[–] [email protected] 50 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Unfortunately someone snuck someone from HP into Brother's executive chain. They're starting the fuckery now too.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I thought the latest update to the new brother color laser added cartridge DRM?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31860131

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[–] ColonelSanders 97 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And this is why things like pirating are not only acceptable but necessary. When companies lock services behind paywalls for products we should legally own, we are left with no recourse but to obtain the services we are owed illegally.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Agreed. Piracy, aka the sharing of information freely (see also: libraries), is a fundamentally ethically correct course of action. Always.

Withholding knowledge for personal profit on the other hand is obviously not.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting 82 points 11 months ago (3 children)

They'll be the first company with their backs against the wall when the revolution comes

[–] EatYouWell 39 points 11 months ago

I'm pretty sure that's Nestle

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

The revolution will not be printed in color.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This should straight up be illegal

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No joke, like what the fuck is this? I bought the thing, and you can just disable it ???

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 11 months ago (5 children)

HP is probably the worst big tech device company. Their products are shit, break quickly, are overpriced and econ students love them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I bought an HP Envy, one of these convertible laptop thingies, when I didn't know any better. The hinge broke about a month after the warranty expired. Repair costs (at a local repair shop, but still) were like 200€ because apparently I had to buy a whole new top cover for the damn repair to work

Anyways, I'm gonna buy a Framework laptop next because fuck going through that again

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Spending too much money on bad products is good for the GDP!

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 11 months ago (7 children)

Why nobody has made an open source ink jet printer design like reprap, I will never understand. The printer industry seems primed for disruption with all their bullshit and their half century old technology.

[–] RQG 20 points 11 months ago

My guess. They couldn't get the printer to work. My 3D printer has a lower problem count than my ink jet regular printed at this point.

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[–] unreasonabro 58 points 11 months ago (1 children)

there's not a single thing radical about wanting these fuckers out of our homes and out of our lives. Kill em all as far as I'm concerned.

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[–] Coreidan 51 points 11 months ago

I made the mistake of buying an HP printer. Fortunately I only spent $70 on it.

Then the ink cartridge ran out as I used all the ink up. So instead of buying more ink I purchased a new printer. This time it was a color inkjet from Brother that will last me years on the first ink cartridge.

Funny how it works. Fuck you HP.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I've been radicalized against HP for a decade now. I bought an HP printer with the guarantee of a sizeable rebate. Of course, the rebate never showed up and every time I called about it, the customer service person would read their script, "Oh we sent that out just a few days ago should be arriving soon." Uh huh. Here it is 15 years later, no rebate check and I'm sure they never intended to send one at all. I'm not a fan of HP at all.

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[–] AgentGrimstone 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is a real thing? I haven't owned a printer in years. Why would they have his debit info in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago (1 children)

yes it's a real thing, it's part of the HP ink program, they disable printers when your payment method rejects or you cancel the sub

[–] AgentGrimstone 23 points 11 months ago (3 children)

So you're basically just renting the printer then. Wow.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Nono, you buy the printer and AFTERWARDS they sell you a subscription on top.

That way they get paid twise, much better...

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[–] PopShark 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I have literally filed a BBB complaint in the past for HP over their stupid ink subscription being fucky

[–] [email protected] 41 points 11 months ago (5 children)

From what I've heard the BBB is as much a BS organization as HP, companies can pay to have the complaints removed.

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[–] grandpaST 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

HP reached its pinnacle in 1993 with the 4L laser printer. They were practically indestructible. I bought one and it took 15 years of heavy use to kill it.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (12 children)

I have an HP printer now, Epson before that. Both are dogshit. When the HP eventually kills itself, as they tend to do, should I buy a Brother? I heard a lot of good stuff about it but have 0 experience with it.

[–] DrownedRats 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

I've had a brother printer going on 10 years and it's never let me down. I've changed toner three times over that time and each cart has never cost me more than 20 ish quid. No DRM carts, no jamming, no subscriptions just a printer that does its job. Even when it's running low, it doesn't prevent me printing, it'll let me know it's low then keep on printing until you can't see the letters any more.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I have a Brother DCP L2541DW. Bought it last year and has been working since with no hiccups nor drum change.

Regardless of brand, don't buy "at home" printers. Those are straight up scams. Just buy office printers.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (11 children)

I wish there was a cheap simple laser engraver that could just “burn” black the surface of generic bulk printer paper. As in an inkless monochrome printer.

A bit like How to Cut, Score, and Engrave Paper With a Laser but without the need to use dedicated laser cutter.

With the explosion of interest in 3D printing, machining and laser cutters, I'm just eager to get hold of a printer like that and forever give up on liquid ink and toners of all sorts.

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[–] RickRussell_CA 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

What once was a product, now is a service

We charge your debit, so you can serve us

EDIT: Inspired by The Stupendium

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

HP execs seething every time I use my old ass HP printer that takes refills and doesn't complain. The ink never dries out either. This thing got no internet access, they can't disable anything without literally breaking down first my door and then the printer itself. I hope they use sleep over this.
Shoutout to the real OGs doing those refills, they fill them more than new ones and sell them for half the price.

[–] Saltycracker 21 points 11 months ago

That would be a radicalization moment for the repair movement. Weird to subscribe for a damn printer

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

my dot matrix never had this problem

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