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Ellis, one of 18 Trump associates charged in Georgia election subversion case, says she ‘simply can’t support him’ again

Jenna Ellis – the Donald Trump lawyer who like the former president faces criminal charges regarding attempted election subversion in his defeat by Joe Biden in 2020 – says she will not vote for him in the future because he is a “malignant narcissist” who cannot admit mistakes.

“I simply can’t support him for elected office again,” Ellis said. “Why I have chosen to distance is because of that frankly malignant narcissistic tendency to simply say that he’s never done anything wrong.”

Ellis, 38, was speaking on her show on American Family Radio, a rightwing evangelical network run by the American Family Association, a non-profit that by its own description has been “on the frontlines of America’s culture war” since 1977.

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[–] pottedmeat7910 119 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw, Honey. You're going to be a felon. You're not going to be allowed to vote for anybody for anything. Hope it was worth it.

[–] SupraMario 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You would think being in the legal field, this dipshit would know that...guess he's run out of actual intelligent lawyers and has to use the far right bigoted religious ones.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

She was fired from a rural DA office in CO for for being a bad lawyer she's always been terrible.

[–] Madison420 5 points 1 year ago

You can reapply for voting rights. In fact not all felonies are up for voting rights removal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

No he can hire good lawyers if he pays up front, the issue is that he ignores them as soon as they say something he doesn't want to hear.

Which, unfortunately, is a lot of what you pay a lawyer to do.

[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm not sure how anybody could have respect for someone, like Ellis, who was so completely illiterate to not be able to read the incredibly obvious writing on the wall. Trump didn't morph into a malignant narcissist. That's always been who he was. Hell - it's been his brand for as long as he's been in the public eye. To think that a malignant narcissist would choose to be grateful to you or treat you like a person and not a means to an end is the very height of hubris. Stupid, blind hubris.

[–] tburkhol 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, the whole reason that malignant narcissists are successful is that they're very good at playing on their victims' emotions and deceiving. Even someone as trash as Trump, you see this steady stream of new victims both being willing to sacrifice their own social and professional lives on the altar of his ego and being shocked that he won't comply with contract terms or reciprocate with even a mild inconvenience. Imagine some dude standing next to a hot stove, saying it's not that hot and offering $100 to put a hand on it. Then when someone burns their hand, denying he ever made the offer.

Humans are terrible at rational decisions.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well, the last guy probably cooled the stove down enough when he grabbed it so it should be fine for me.

[–] SulaymanF 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Like Chris Christie, she supported him for 4 years and then only at the end was suddenly shocked to discover he was a bad guy. Of course he claims he soured on Trump after the Jan 6 insurrection and she broke with hm publicly only after she gets charged alongside him and faces mandatory minimum prison time.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think she's virtue signaling for the court. Hoping to sway sentencing when it comes (or praying they let her off now that she sees Trump's a turd).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Could be that she's announcing that unless DJT starts paying for her lawyer she's going state's evidence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I don't see DT doing that considering he can't pay for his own at this point.

I hope you're right about the states evidence.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

She might not understand that he's cash-strapped.

[–] just_another_person 15 points 1 year ago

I get the feeling that had they succeeded in overthrowing democracy as planned, she wouldn't be saying this right now. Take that for what you will.

[–] paddirn 13 points 1 year ago

Perhaps the only good thing I can ever say about Trump is how consistent he’s been this whole time. Consistently shitty, but consistent nonetheless. Granted, he makes decisions based on whatever the last person in the room convinced him to do and contradicts himself on a minute-by-minute basis, so he’s even shitty at consistency, but that’s just part of the consistent shittiness. It’s like a human centipede ouroboros.

[–] elbarto777 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She's not illiterate. She was blinded by her own greed.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was being metaphorical with the "illiterate" comment. As in, she's not able to read the writing on the wall.

[–] elbarto777 1 points 1 year ago

I know you were. Just like I was being metaphorical with the "blinded" comment.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago

“I simply can’t support him for elected office again,” Ellis said.

Because she’ll be a convicted felon by Election Day. If she weren’t, she’d 100% vote for Trump again. Don’t believe the crocodile tears.

[–] eran_morad 21 points 1 year ago

Dis some tasty schadenfreude

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She has always known what kind of person Trump is; he's not exactly subtle. And she supported him anyway, even to the point of committing serious crimes in his name. The only difference now is that she is facing consequences.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

She supported him when she thought he was a malignant narcissist who could give her what she wanted.

She doesn't support him now she knows he a malignant narcissist who can't.

If a new malignant narcissist comes along promising to make society more bigoted, she'll support them too.

[–] FlyingSquid 18 points 1 year ago
[–] iBaz 13 points 1 year ago

I’ll translate this: I won’t support him because he won’t pay my mounting legal bills.

[–] books 9 points 1 year ago

The amount of people who think they mean anything to this guy is fucking staggering, especially given his track record.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Jenna Ellis – the Donald Trump lawyer who like the former president faces criminal charges regarding attempted election subversion in his defeat by Joe Biden in 2020 – says she will not vote for him in the future because he is a “malignant narcissist” who cannot admit mistakes.

Denying all wrongdoing and claiming political persecution, he also faces four federal counts related to election subversion; 40 federal counts related to retention of classified information; 34 state counts in New York over hush-money payments; and civil cases including a $250m lawsuit lodged by the New York attorney general over his business affairs and a defamation claim arising from a rape allegation a judge said was “substantially true”.

Nonetheless, Trump leads polling regarding the 2024 Republican presidential primary by vast margins, in national and key state surveys.

Ellis is a former counsel for the Thomas More Society, a conservative Catholic group, whose claims to be a constitutional lawyer have been widely doubted.

Described by the New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman as “a lawyer whom Trump sought out after seeing her television commentary”, in 2020 Ellis rose from relative obscurity to become part of what she called an “elite strike force team” working to overturn Trump’s defeat by Biden.

“And the total idolatry that I’m seeing from some of the supporters that are unwilling to put the constitution and the country and the conservative principles above their love for a star is really troubling.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I really like The Guardian and have no particular interest in pictures of Ellis. But it is weird that I see two pictures of tiny hands cheeto pudding in an article about Ellis and none of her.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Always nice to see someone with a differentiated opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Good mob men must suffer.