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[–] dezmd 86 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"The Climate Change Hoax" was the most poinant takeaway of the evening, alongside Pence getting fired up without mentioning Mother. It was a wild ride of bullshit with no real substance by a pack of propaganda clowns posing as candidates.

[–] xc2215x 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] utopianfiat 6 points 1 year ago

Their dwindling base

[–] SulaymanF 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They’re all deeply delusional.

[–] GCanuck 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you mean the GOP base, yes. If you mean the people on that stage, then no. The people on the stage know exactly what they’re doing.

[–] Zombiepirate 5 points 1 year ago

Let's dispel with this fiction that ~~Barack Obama~~ Chris Christie doesn't know what he's doing. He knows exactly what he's doing.

[–] assassin_aragorn 4 points 1 year ago

It was yet another canary in the coal mine for the GOP however -- the few young people who are Republicans are concerned about climate change and want serious action. The debate pretty much solidified the Republicans aren't going to do that, unless maybe they somehow nominate Haley.

[–] breadsmasher 72 points 1 year ago (8 children)

republicans hated obama. why does Ramaswamy think any of those racist clowns would vote for him? Why is he even running for a party that despises him because he isn’t white?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Bobby Jindal learned this lesson too. Nikki Haley as well. They're token minorities the GOP tries to trot out when things are getting too white.

[–] Eldritch 11 points 1 year ago

Piyush and Nimrata will never learn the lesson. They are true Republicans through and through. And would given an any opportunity, gladly shill for the party and against the interest of people like themselves.

[–] inclementimmigrant 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

He, like many other minorities, especially Asians unfortunately, think that of they just act a little more white, act a little more of that racist trope of the model minority that they'll be accepted by the racist whites.

Also, he's probably grifting.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just assume all Republicans are grifting.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] ScornForSega 10 points 1 year ago

He's probably running for a cabinet position.

Worked for Buttigeg, Ben Carson and Rick Perry.

[–] Nightwingdragon 18 points 1 year ago

The same could be asked of Tim Scott.

[–] sucricdrawkcab 18 points 1 year ago

I honestly don't think he cares. I think it's more about being on TV, to be on TV more, to then turn the foolishness into paid appearances and hustle a podcast.

[–] xc2215x 15 points 1 year ago

Vivek thinks because he agrees with them that things will be different.

[–] njm1314 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's not trying to win. Most of them aren't. They're just fundraising.

[–] Astroturfed 7 points 1 year ago

You'd think after trump more people would be aware.... He was grifting from the start and might of never even thought he had a shot. The campaign donations are basically a slush fund they have access to for anything they can make a half ass excuse to use it for. Never pay for another flight, meal or hotel room in your life after one relevant primary state showing.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Money. No one will vote for him, but the party as a whole loves when minorities join them, and they'll throw cash at them to be to say, "See? We aren't all white so we can't be racist."

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm assuming he's paid to be a candidate. No he will never win the primary but he's up there. Also I think they might be able to vote for a black guy, as long as he's able to go up there and say "there's no such thing as racism". I mean they did platform ben carson,

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And put Thomas on the bench because he was 'one of the good ones'.

[–] [email protected] 67 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My takeaway is that half of our country is dumb as shit if they are considering voting for any of them. The denial of climate change should be game over considering the entire world is on fire around us.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 36 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Conservatives have been programmed to believe climate change is fake news.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Another way to say it is that they are dumb as shit. They make absolutely no effort to investigate issues themselves and instead rely on Fox to tell them what to think. It should be embarrassing to be that willingly ignorant but they have no shame.

[–] Ragdoll_X 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've seen ~~discount Kermit~~ Peterson try to pivot to the idea that climate change actually saves lives because more people die during winter. I wonder if he'd be willing to say that to the face of people who have lost everything because of the recent Hilary storm.

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[–] Nightwingdragon 60 points 1 year ago (3 children)

In a nutshell:

  • Ramaswamy is a dollar-store Donald Trump (which alone should be saying something) that is banking his campaign on taking the most extreme and ridiculous right-wing position on any topic.

  • DeSantis still is little more than badly programmed AI stuffed in a human body.

  • Pence still has the personality and charisma of a wedge of cheese. Limburger, to be precise.

  • Christie showed all the get-up-and-go of a car out of gas, and seems to be banking more on his own name recogintion than anything else.

  • Burgum hobbled on crutches to the stage to basically say "Hey, I'm here! Guys? Guys!??!"

The others shouldn't have bothered showing up. And none of them seem to be really in touch with what their own voters want, let alone the public at large.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He has that Used Car Salesman scumminess to him.

Mike Pence made a much better showing, had dome good punches.

Overall no one from the GOP appears qualified for the job.

[–] billiam0202 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Overall no one from the GOP appears qualified for the job.

You needed to watch that shitshow to learn that? ^/s^

[–] YoBuckStopsHere 7 points 1 year ago

Reinforced my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Every Republican is a 1970’s sleazebag car salesman. Their children, who were on stage last night, really highlights why we shouldn’t have trust fund kids run ANYTHING important.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pence has the personality and style of a human cigarette.

[–] Fapper_McFapper 55 points 1 year ago (6 children)

DeSantis said under a DeSantis administration, people who cross into the United States illegally would end up “stone cold dead,” a promise he has repeated for weeks.

How is it that people are not calling him out on this? How the fuck can a Hispanic person vote for this Nazi?

[–] SulaymanF 22 points 1 year ago

What a “Christian” message.

[–] smackson 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Second generation (or more) descendants of immigrants often don't appreciate what their ancestors did. Just "Born in the USA dammit, it's mine".

Even many first generation latinos don't want further waves doing what they did.

Or, they don't even see the next immigrants as doing what they did, or being like they were. They might help specific friends and family follow along, but not those "teeming hordes over there".

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

the "I got mine, fuck you!" demographic is a lock for the Republicans.

[–] utopianfiat 8 points 1 year ago

A large portion of them say "I followed the rules and paid my fair share"

[–] xc2215x 8 points 1 year ago

White racists are most of his base.

[–] billiam0202 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As the Democratic party is learning, "Hispanic" isn't a monolithic bloc. Mexicans aren't the same as Puerto Ricans aren't the same as Colombians aren't the same as Nicaraguans aren't the same as Cubans etc. Some of them hate other Latin nationalities almost as much as white American Conservatives hate all of them.

[–] sucricdrawkcab 5 points 1 year ago

They have the Hispanic propaganda machine on lock is how.

[–] asdfasdfasdf 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I hate Desantis as much as the next person, but he was talking about the cartels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXEvjRt8uRg

It does leave room for ambiguity, but I also think OP's article's quote is very disingenuous. CNN is trash.

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[–] inclementimmigrant 30 points 1 year ago

It was a scary god damn fascist shitshow where they told the American people if you're not a cis white male you will lose your civil rights and the harder you went fascist the bigger cheers you got.

And despite all of that, Trump still won the debate because the biggest cheers were from the extremists that prostrated themselves at the toadstool of Trump while Trump was going off on anothet unhinged, incomprehensible interview.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


And because he has positioned himself as a defender of Trump, Ramaswamy was, at times, a stand-in for the former president, who momentarily ceded the stage Wednesday night but will take it back Thursday when he turns himself in at the Fulton County jail in Georgia as he faces election subversion charges.

And at a key moment – when the candidates were asked to raise their hands if they would support Trump if he is convicted in a court of law – DeSantis peeked around the stage to see how everyone else had responded before he half heartedly put up his right palm.

He shared his biography – thrice mentioning his military service and talking repeatedly about his young family – an acknowledgment that voters may not yet know his story beyond the cultural clashes and Covid-19 policies that have made him a Republican star.

Nearly eight years ago, the former governor embarrassed Marco Rubio during the final debate before the New Hampshire primary by pointing out the Florida senator’s habit of repeating lines.

The optics didn’t help: Fox News showed a split screen of Christie standing silently as Ramaswamy grinned until the moderators asked the crowd to let him finish.

Haley, the former South Carolina governor and US ambassador to the United Nations under Trump, brought onto the stage Wednesday a message that was geared more directly for a general electorate than those of her rivals.


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[–] TokenBoomer 5 points 1 year ago

Vote Republican if you want to invade Mexico.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Calgon, take them all away.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like Trump will have to worry more about Vivek than DeSantis.

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