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Summary

Fox News openly blamed Donald Trump for Monday’s stock market crash, with the Dow dropping 890 points and the S&P 500 falling 2.7%.

The Dow is now 1,500 points below where it was when Trump took office. Analysts cite his chaotic messaging and steep tariffs on key trading partners as driving investor uncertainty.

Trump refused to predict a recession, calling it a “transition,” while his officials gave conflicting reassurances.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent warned of a “detox period,” further fueling market fears.

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[–] JacksonLamb 21 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When you thought you were a leopard but you turned out to just be a person with a face.

[–] roofTophopper 8 points 11 hours ago

What was that truth social post again about the market dropping 2% under "horrible Harris" and "sleepy Joe" and how they should resign?

[–] Chainweasel 52 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Trump was placed in office for one specific reason, to make rich people even more money.
He's falling at that because rich people don't have cash, they have stock.

He's fucking with trade which is making stock prices free fall, and since rich people's values are directly tied to stock prices, that's as good as taking money directly out of their wallets.
This is the only thing that will put an end to Donald Trump, fucking with rich people's money.

[–] JacksonLamb 8 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

He was placed in office to make super wealthy oligarchs richer and he is succeeding.

Oligarchs make a killing in these conditions. They all came out richer after the 2008 financial collapse and they will again this time.

[–] cavtroop 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

They're crashing everything on purpose, and at multiple people direction. The wealthy a) make money on the shorts etc and b) will hoover up whats left after everyone not in the 1% has nothing left.

THATS when they'll ditch DT via the 25th, Vance will take over as hes less of a loose cannon and more controllable. He'll also be able to run for president twice more if they use the 25th on DT after 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 17 hours ago

I wish you were right, but the rich LOVE a stock fire sale and Trump is giving them one. Berkshire Hathaway has been saving up liquidity specifically in anticipation of a recession. Every time the market dips, the rich end up growing even richer.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 18 hours ago

The rich are far, far more savvy at investing than that. The rich made a fuckton yesterday by selling VIX, writing calls, and generally just doing what people who already own everything do.

This hurts 401(k)s and investments owned by normal people. The rich will be fine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 17 hours ago

Unbelievably enough, it might end up being the rich people in the US who end up saving us all, by deposing Trump because he fucks up their bottom line.

[–] AbidanYre 19 points 16 hours ago

calling it a “trans

DOGE has scrubbed all record of his comment.

[–] RememberTheApollo_ 21 points 16 hours ago

Eh, they’ll just blame the democrats somehow. That’s all they ever do. Make up some convoluted or disconnected logic about how some unrelated policy set by Biden or Obama made trump such a shitty president.

[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer 41 points 22 hours ago

Uh-oh! You thought Trump was some ultra-conservative "tear down this wall" kind of President when he actually turned out to be a treasonous, Russian asset, "burn fucking everything" type of President? Ah, dang, where did I leave those shits? Totally would've given you some, but it appears I'm all out. 🤷

[–] [email protected] 91 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Last time we had a depression we didn't have 512 million guns floating around. Gonna be a hot time in the ol town for sure.

Shotgun shells and canned goods are back on the menu, boys!

[–] mean_bean279 57 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My wife thought I was crazy, she might have been partially right, but during Covid when people stoked up on TP I was stocking up on ammo. I told her I didn’t trust the current admin (Trump) to actually do enough and worried about a devolving system. I feel it even more with Trump 2.0… I’ve been telling all my progressive friends to go to the range and arm themselves. Those guns are floating in the hands of a ton of MAGA-folk and I don’t trust them.

[–] rayyy 3 points 16 hours ago

Those MAGA-folk are going to be super mad when they lose their jobs and homes due to their dear leader's fuck-ups. The blame game won't work now that immigrants are leaving either. MAGAs are pretty dumb, but even they will begin to figure out who is causing their woes.

[–] zildjiandrummer1 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would not advertise that too much if I were you

[–] mean_bean279 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

That MAG have lots of guns? That I’m prepared to defend exactly what my constitution says? Or that I’m armed? Because all of them are things I would advertise. People need to learn that progressives/the left are armed too.

[–] Fredselfish 11 points 20 hours ago

Exactly shocked the fuck out of my brother a year ago when he saw me browsing a socialist gun sub reddit. He said in fear "socialist have guns?" I said fuck yeah we do. He thought only right wingers are armed.

He also freaked when that guy in Florida driving a toyota prius shot that fucking red neck that was harassing him.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That you're stockpiling ammo. Trump is going to go after personal gun ownership at some point in the next 2 year.

[–] mean_bean279 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Outside of his bump stock ban that couldn’t be farther from an actual reality. There are many, many stupid things that man will do. Taking away guns is definitely not one of them. I’m all for pointing out the insanity of this administration, but we cannot become crazy conspiracy nuts like MAGA. Trump will ruin the economy and make it so people can’t afford guns, but take them away… not at all.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

Trump literally said, ""Take the guns first, go through due process second," in his first term.

Fascist authoritarian dictators usually don't let private gun ownership exist.

And at the very least they'll try to take them away from liberals.

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[–] Nightwingdragon 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

That MAG have lots of guns? That I’m prepared to defend exactly what my constitution says? Or that I’m armed? Because all of them are things I would advertise. People need to learn that progressives/the left are armed too.

If it gets to the point where you actually have to use your guns in that manner, all you're doing is advertising that you have a whole bunch of ammo and supplies for other people to steal. Thump your chest all you want, but you've gotta sleep sometime and if you're going to advertise that you have a shitload of ammo available, someone's gonna come to your house in the middle of the night when you're least able to defend yourself and kill you to take it and everything else you own.

Arm yourself to the teeth if you can and if that makes you feel better, but keep quiet about it. The best way to make sure nobody comes to try to take what you have is making sure that nobody knows you have it in the first place.

[–] mean_bean279 6 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

My house isn’t intended to be a point of battle… I think you’re mistaking being prepared for something and talking about that preparation compared to building up full caches. Which I have no reason for. Look more to examples of Ukraine in the early parts of the war. That’s a rough idea of what I’d expect modern warefare/civil war. So having enough to fight off something potentially localized is important, but not the end. Being quiet on these matters is how we have ended up in this shit position.

[–] Nightwingdragon 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

My point stands. Whether it's society breaking down and local citizens looting off of each other, or you're worried about a Trump Gestapo coming for you doesn't matter. If you advertise that you're stocking up on ammo and supplies, and either other citizens or Trump's thugs decide they want it, they're going to come for it and you're not going to be able to fight them off. You are not the Terminator. You are not Rambo. You are not a one-man-army.

If you want to stock up on ammo, more power to you. Build up a cache like Schwarzenegger's shed in Commando. But you are not Schwarzenegger. The best way to make sure that you still have that stuff if shit goes sideways is to make sure nobody else knows you have it. Otherwise, they'll just barge in and thank you for building up a huge supply cache for them to take by putting a bullet in your head. Whether you're worried about looting citizens or Trump's thugs is irrelevant.

[–] mean_bean279 1 points 10 hours ago

When the FUCK did I claim to be a one man army? Holy shit my dude. I simply said I’m trying to convince my other progressive/liberal friends to arm themselves and keeping myself armed. If I thought I was a one man army I wouldn’t be trying to get them to arm themselves. Your point doesn’t stand because it’s coming from an assumption that you’ve made not from truth

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Last time we had a depression

Great Depression 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[–] P00ptart 11 points 1 day ago

Gotta put Trump's name in there. Make sure it's attached directly to his name for the rest of history.

[–] Dr_Fetus_Jackson 6 points 1 day ago

2 Caste 2 Spurious

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago

Hell has frozen over for once that FOX actually blames an active Republican politician. That's when you know - you've truly fucked up.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If Fox News turns Democrat for Trump, we can say the apocalypse has begun

[–] orgrinrt 9 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Things have been very upside down lately on multiple fronts..

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Dow is now 1,500 points below where it was when Trump took office.

Holy shit.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Did you even thank Trump for this though? You don’t have the cards.

Where’s your suit also?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Thank you Massa trump, sir.

Every MAGA

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[–] just_another_person 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No simpler way to bankrupt all the poors and let the billionaires buy up all their land and such to start their "freedom cities" which are actually company towns.

Gotta make em desperate and give them no choice before you can build Amazonfield, Metacity One, and Teslaville.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I don't think any of this is intentional. There is no secret plan or grand strategy, it's all as chaotic as it looks.

[–] WhatAmLemmy 8 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There is a plan for the oligarchs financing US politicians.

Trump doesn't have a plan, and understand how anything works. Everything he's ever signed was written by lobbyists and corporate lawyers.

[–] AA5B 2 points 17 hours ago

Which puts it all back to chaos - I think it’s all individual retrogressives taking advantage to push their own agenda. You end up with dozens of independent half-baked strategies doing all sorts of inconsistent things

[–] JacksonLamb 1 points 11 hours ago

"Chaos is a ladder" - ~~Littlefinger~~ oligarchs

[–] partial_accumen 19 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent warned of a “detox period,” further fueling market fears.

"Monetary policy in this nation historically has been too stuck on the concept of money having value. The president has introduced a 'detox period' where we are decouple the concept of 'money' and it being worth anything." -Scott Bessent probably

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FOX News? Holy. I must withdraw my funds assp.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

The funny thing about buying the dip is that sometimes the company is just fucking failing and is up to its eyeballs in debt, so you don't even get a cash out.

And if it wasn't in debt, it will be when the corporate raiders finish transfering their own debt to it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

face-eating leopard noises intensify to sound levels that can incur permanent hearing loss - seek shelter immediately

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[–] tehn00bi 2 points 18 hours ago

They need to double down. They are the mouthpiece of the president, embrace your role. Propaganda only works if you don’t question.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

Fox is play their pretending to be fair game. I don’t trust new republic reading the air.

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