Can I get a tl;dr
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Trump and Vance verbally attacked Selensky on live TV saying stuff like he doesnt want ceasefire/peace and should be more thankful to the US
Selensky said he was thankful for all the aid just 5min before and that he would need some sort of security guarantee so that Putin doesnt just break the ceasefire.
They (Trump and Vance) were angry and kinda aborted the whole deal they were supposed to sign.
I don't even know why this shit is televised. I note the meeting with Putin wasn't.
Does Trump think this is his new TV show?
Not only aren't the meetings between Trump and Putin televised, nobody else is even present when those two talk.
It's because the shouting was planned.
I assume they wanted to make Zelensky seem desperate and unhinged. But this backfired, since Zelensky remained calm throughout, but Trump and Vance flipped out when Zelensky pointed out that the distance alone won't protect Americans from the fallout of further Russian aggression. And most EU leaders professed their support for Ukraine after the meeting. So, basically, the shouting was planned, it was just that they planned for Zelensky to do the shouting.
just look at the room's configuration and you can immediately tell that the goal was to literally corner Zelenskyy and hammer him until he loses his cool and lashes out. It really impresses as Vance orchestrated the whole thing, but he hasn't thought about that someone fighting putin, a room full of spongy suits might not be scary enough.
I remember when I thought JD Vance's blatant incompetence was going to lose Trump the election
Better days eh?
I'm surprised they didn't have him sitting on a little wobbly stool while they reclined on thrones.
that would have been "too transparent".
Kinda weird to have Marco Rubio sitting there
he fits in there much better than MTG's boyfriend in his blue costume he's apparently very proud of😂
Meeting with Putin not televised because Krasnov doesn't want their love-making viewed by anyone.
I want to see it tho, cause I like horror movies.
I've heard Alibaba just released a new AI video gen
Trump thinks his entire life is a TV show.
He thinks he is important enough to have a life TV show
Zelensky is surprisingly snappy. After getting used to the average politician he really surprised me. But yeah this response to the "two weeks" was gold.
Well Comedian probably handle hecklers
I just picture a conversation between a mother and son, many years ago, going "but you could do more!"
Zelenskyy is a fucking gigachad for saying that in the Oval Office. Fucking legend
I think Zelensky was being quite mild only because he is in a very difficult position and he actually cares more about his country than himself unlike this orangegutan. So he kind of allowed Trump to get away with his dihheriacious comments. Had he been free of this restraint he would have easily buried him to the ground.
Hmm? I saw the debacle in the oval office. But what did Putin tell Donni or Selesnkyj?
Orange man was like: you don't hold the cards. Without us, you will lose this war in three weeks.
Zelenskyy: three days, yeah I heard it from Putin
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(I can probably take an educated guess, but) context?
While talking to zelensky, trump said something like the war in Ukraine could have ended in three days, and zelensky said 'am I crazy or are you quoting Putin right now?'
I'm unwilling to listen to that embarrassing shit show again so that's as accurate as I can get.
Trump said it would have been over in two weeks and Zelenski said “3 days, I heard it from putin”
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That video reduced my lifespan by at least a couple years. In his previous term he was a narcissistic asshole. Could barely put up with him back then. Right now, he is something else entirely. It is like he is actually a pokemon and he evolved into his final form after getting reelected.
He absorbed Androids 17 (Biden) and 18 (Kamala) and gained his Perfect Form
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embarrassing shit show
^^ That is a excellent recap of the ambush "meeting".
I forced myself through it, wretching every time that orange asshole opened his mouth to say something fucking stupid.
I hate him so goddamn much
Trump repeating a Russian talking points to Zelensky while obliterating the relationship.
Also Trump was wrong as usual. US support for Ukraine was pretty minimal at the start of the war. Nobody expected them to last long, why supply them with heavy weaponry if it would fall into Russia's hands in a few weeks? Lesson learned from US support of Afghanistan in the 80's and why the Afghanistan army didn't receive them in the 2000s. Only after Ukraine proved themselves did the West ramp up support.
Well the US did send Javelin missiles to Ukraine before the start of the war... but only after Trump tried to hold them back in an extortion scheme on Zelenskyy to get him to smear Biden. That resulted in the first impeachment of Trump and since he's a small and petty worm, he obviously holds a grudge.
And then he had the gall to tell Zelensky to his face 'I'm the one that gave you javelins!', even though they were both on that perfect phone call where he tried to extort him.
This is just leaking into my bubble and I don't know how much of it I can take but as for this part - I'm here for it.
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