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Summary

An American Airlines jet and a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter collided midair near Reagan National Airport, killing at least 18 people.

Trump initially expressed condolences but later questioned why the air traffic control tower or helicopter pilot didn’t prevent the crash.

The FAA identified the plane as a PSA Airlines Bombardier CRJ700.

A Kennedy Center webcam captured the collision, and investigations are ongoing.

CNN’s Pete Muntean called the incident stunning, noting its proximity to a military base.

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[–] grue 137 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)
[–] arin 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dumb oligarch in power, shoots self in foot

[–] AbidanYre 23 points 1 week ago

Shoots others in foot. Nothing happened to Elon or Trump.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Pretty sure his foot isn't one of the people that died

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be clear I think this one is a coincidence. The next ones are probably not...

Unless it comes out that the 3 people on the helicopter were newbies that only has that position because of trump.

[–] RagingRobot 11 points 1 week ago

I know it's a coincidence but I'm still going to blame trump because that's exactly what Trump did when Biden was president. He got on Twitter or whatever and blamed every single bad thing that happened in this country on Biden. Trump deserves the same treatment if not worse.

[–] Veedem 121 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The questions he’s asking aren’t wrong to ask. The real problem, IMO, is that he’s the president and can’t simply post those questions publicly. He’s an idiot, though, so this is what we get.

But seriously, he also asks why the Black Hawk pilot didn’t do ANYTHING to avoid a known flight path and I’ve asked the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

This is the kind of stuff the "deregulate everything" crowd never seems to think about.

This dumbass is in the process of removing all enforcement of agency regulations and then this prime example of why we have rules in the first place appears

[–] TrickDacy 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. Firing half the government would lead to outcomes like this

[–] postmateDumbass 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

You mean like last time with the train accidents?

[–] FooBarrington 15 points 1 week ago

"Nooo, we don't mean those regulations, only the bad ones!"

proceeds to blindly revoke regulations

"Whoopsie!"

[–] cogman 30 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Why was the army running a night flight training mission in DC?

Such a crowded airspace and I'm sure the military didn't coordinate their flight plans with the local air traffic control.

[–] Veedem 14 points 1 week ago

It’s a valid question, but I just watched a press conference where somebody explained that these aren’t rookie pilots but pilots looking to log the proper amount of flight hours.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're sure? Why wouldn't they? Jumping to these types of conclusions is bad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

I wonder who was the point of contact on the FAA. Cause, if that happened to be the guy who was fired?

That said, I do realize speculation won't help. Apparently they've been overloading that airspace for a while now, allegedly just for the personal convenience of members of Congress. But of course they will find literally anybody else to blame.

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[–] flying_gel 101 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] Boddhisatva 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, he's gone out of his way to sow chaos in every area of government including transportation. I would not be surprised if his actions did lead in some way to this tragedy.

[–] TrickDacy 9 points 1 week ago

I would be surprised if it did not.

[–] TrickDacy 35 points 1 week ago

If Biden was firing every government worker he could and then such a rare event happened, involving a military helicopter in DC, it would be fair to blame him. Not when it's trump tho! /s

[–] SkybreakerEngineer 91 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The funny part is, the tower DID tell them what to do, the helo just didn't do it

[–] Crackhappy 29 points 1 week ago

Hey look at that, someone who actually listened to the ATC calls.

[–] Alenalda 53 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

He's already had a hand in the deaths of over ~~100000~~ 1000000 Americans why would he care about 60 more?

[–] Omegamanthethird 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you need an extra zero in there.

[–] Alenalda 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You are right I accidently a zero. Tbf I was still right just not as accurate. 🤗

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago

The bodies ain't cold yet and trump will already assign blame. Fuck actual investigation, who cares what really happened?

Also, he probably wants to preempt things like realmfacts that might implicate his own government

[–] eran_morad 38 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Such a shame it wasn’t AF1.

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[–] friend_of_satan 25 points 1 week ago

This is a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented.

Too true, Donald, too true. I've been saying that a lot lately.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This was pilot deviation or pilot error for the helicopter. They were instructed to maintain visual separation and to cross behind the CRJ and then just didn’t.

Edit: The issue was also that they reported CRJ in sight. If they couldn’t find the CRJ, ATC should have routed them on a safe path. But they reported in sight.

[–] dhork 7 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Do you have any links to sources on this? I see a lot of people speaking authoritatively on this here but no links to sources.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago
[–] Absaroka 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's amazing how he always seems to have "the answer" AFTER something bad happens. But never the foresight to make changes before tragedy strikes.

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[–] IndustryStandard 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is the control tower also ran by illegal Mexican immigrants Donald?

[–] not_woody_shaw 18 points 1 week ago

In the press conference he's trying to pin it on DEI. Disgusting behaviour.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Illegal immigrants too busy doing fentenyl and black people smoking PCP.

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[–] alexc 17 points 1 week ago

Is it just possible they got rid of a highly trained and competent trans pilot and replaced them with Private Cousinfucker from Dumbfuckistan?

[–] Skullgrid 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

A reminder of what a presidential attitude used to be :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buck_passing#%22The_buck_stops_here%22

The pictured President is one of those lazy left wingers who doesn't want to work.

[–] HeyJoe 9 points 1 week ago

I saw some of the press conference with the people investigating (it was on the news while getting ready for work) and one of the questions asked to them was this statement made by our glorious leader and I laughed. I laughed because it's absolutely the complete opposite of how to handle this type of situation. As someone from his background, you would think he knows never to make any statements about anything until you have the clear picture first. What he did will just cause more headaches for people actually doing their jobs now and feel bad they even have to deal with Mr. Wildcard, creating more havoc for them than they need.

I don't work in public facing affairs, but even internally it's known you don't make any statements to anyone outside your department regarding serious issues because every word can be taken the wrong way unless worded properly. If it's something serious, you consult as a team, and someone approves the statement sent out.

[–] kikutwo 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe don't have training flights at night into one of the most congested airports in the country?

[–] TheRealKuni 1 points 6 days ago

As this is a route flown to transport VIPs, eventually you HAVE to train pilots on it, at night, during congestion. These would have been highly experienced pilots who would’ve flown the route previously. They knew what they were doing.

People make mistakes.

That’s why aviation relies on the Swiss cheese model. Unfortunately there was only one needed point of failure here, it seems.

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